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Conservatives meet with Trump, who hints that GOP ACA fix could drift further right
WaPo ^ | March 8, 2017 | David Weigel and Sean Sullivan

Posted on 03/13/2017 12:00:03 PM PDT by NobleFree

Edited on 03/13/2017 1:13:44 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aca; ahca; fullrepeal; obamacare; rinocare; ryancare
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1 posted on 03/13/2017 12:00:03 PM PDT by NobleFree
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To: NobleFree

WE DIDN’T VOTE FOR A “FIX”
WE VOTED FOR REPEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 03/13/2017 12:00:49 PM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)
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To: NobleFree

President Trump Leads a Listening Session on Healthcare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts_C_WivWGI


3 posted on 03/13/2017 12:02:27 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: NobleFree

It better.


4 posted on 03/13/2017 12:05:19 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: NobleFree

One element of the House bill that Trump and his team appeared unwilling to overhaul are the age and income-based tax credits in the House proposal designed to replace federal insurance subsidies in the Affordable Care Act...

I HATE that Earned Income Tax Credit ####.

Some ILLEGALS got tens of thousands last year!!!!! For all the years they worked illegally and for all their kids!!!

The five years i was on SSDI, an accountant told me i I filled out a return (which i didn’t have to) i would get 200 back.

Back from what?!!??! I wasn’t working!!!


5 posted on 03/13/2017 12:05:20 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Mr. K

Agreed! The statists won’t listen or stop. This was getting old before Trump....


6 posted on 03/13/2017 12:15:23 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose
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To: NobleFree

“A third tweak Trump and his team seemed at least open to, attendees said, was raising the cap on how much money people can put into tax-exempt savings accounts for health-care costs, going further than the House GOP proposal.”

This should be a no-brainer. It’s the easiest thing to do and fattens people’s paychecks immediately.

I’d also like to remind those who will freak out in the press about lowered AGI that we had this before Obamacare.


7 posted on 03/13/2017 12:15:39 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: NobleFree

I am very worried about Trump on this RyanCare crap. He seems to be for it. I hope he doesn’t go along with it. Ig he does, he can kiss that coalition the voted him in goodbye.


8 posted on 03/13/2017 12:22:26 PM PDT by Angels27
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To: TBP

If it doesn’t it has no chance to even get out of the House.
People keep talking about appeasing the Democrats in R jerseys to get it passed in the Senate when they don’t even have the votes in the House for Ryancare.


9 posted on 03/13/2017 12:30:36 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Mr. K

WE DIDN’T VOTE FOR A “FIX”
WE VOTED FOR REPEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES! YES!! YES!!!

MR PRESIDENT! YOU PROMISED REPEAL! WE VOTED FOR REPEAL!

WE NO NOT WANT RYNORYAN/McCONJOB H wEALTHCARE!

WEALTHCARE FOR THE GOPE!!
Burn In Hell Ryan!

10 posted on 03/13/2017 12:30:59 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: NobleFree

Federal government control of healthcare epitomizes the worst in Administrative State. Federal government control of healthcare sets up it's own economic structure within our government. It is ILLEGAL!

Here is the current structure under ObamaCARE


Here is the new defined structure under RinoCARE


11 posted on 03/13/2017 12:32:55 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Mr. K

Contact Peesident at
White House. Gov
Tell him how you feel

He does listen but we must speak!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/write-or-call


12 posted on 03/13/2017 12:44:42 PM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT Ll)
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To: NobleFree

If a GOP and `rat unholy alliance pass it without publishing it in full and without an opportunity for public comment and debate, then it’s no different than the way the `rats rammed it down America’s throat.
(Ahem, althoug public comment at town hall meetings in 2009 on Obamacare was vociferously negative.

If the mandates and penalties, and job-killing “30 hours or more and you pay, comrade” portions remain, it’s dead in the water for conservatives. We want it repealed, not resuscitated.


13 posted on 03/13/2017 12:45:40 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: ForYourChildren
President Trump needs to consider reforms, not retain Obamacare under a different label.
‘Another change that some of the conservative leaders want to see take effect more swiftly — in 2018 instead of 2020 — is a proposal in the House GOP plan to allow insurance companies more freedom in the types of coverage they can offer Americans. One of the meeting’s attendees said Trump and his team seemed open to this idea.’
This may be a lean in the right direction.
In the Art of the Deal, watch the fine print very carefully.
TWB
14 posted on 03/13/2017 12:51:01 PM PDT by TWhiteBear
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To: NobleFree

It would be hard for it to drift farther Left.


15 posted on 03/13/2017 12:54:50 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Zathras
One small point that Sarah Palin brought up is the question of whether or not Politicians and Bureaucrats are covered by this plan.
The fat cats loaded Obamacare on us peons, and gave a hot deal for themselves.
Is Speaker Ryan in the same program as we are, or does he get the fat cat exemptions?
TWB
16 posted on 03/13/2017 1:18:35 PM PDT by TWhiteBear
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To: Mr. K; All

The dogmatists such as yourself and others think it’s so easy to just repeal everything. It’s not that simple and there’s a political calculation to everything. The CBO just said 24M Americans will lose healthcare in a decade on the replacement plan, and the idiots in this country are convinced that everyone now has insurance, when they don’t. So the reality is that there needs to be some level of replacement in this process, otherwise the GOP will be drawn and quartered by the Democrats and the media. So, Trump is doing the right thing here. He’s publicly supporting the bill while negotiating to make it more conservative. Go read the Art of the Deal. You’ll learn something.


17 posted on 03/13/2017 1:25:29 PM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States)
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To: NobleFree

I still haven’t decided whether or not I support the Ryan plan. I assume as it works its way through the process, and with President Trump pushing it, there will be changes, either before it leaves the House or when it gets to the Senate, probably both. Who knows how the CBO analysis will affect it?

As for tax credits, I don’t see how tax avoidance is a bad thing, nor do I think they should be considered entitlements.

Phase 2, which doesn’t require legislative active will allow the Secy of HHS to make changes in existing regulations. I assume they would be relaxed or eliminated, which would lower the costs of health care, would they not?

I presume the best time to execute phase 3 would be just before the 2018 congressional elections. Sounds like they want a stand-alone bill to allow health insurance to be bought across state borders, and are prepared to call to task all of the US Senators up for reelection. Getting a bill passed in the environment sounds like a reasonable gamble to me.

So, so far, I’m not too upset about it. I’ve read so many criticisms, but I don’t recall being convinced that that this thing, which will eventually be called Trumpcare, would not be a significant improvement to the status quo.


18 posted on 03/13/2017 1:26:40 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: dp0622

Not only the EICT, but the illegals can plain child tax credits on kids supposedly living in Mexico. When amnesty was
Proposed, the IRS testified that if the illegals were required to file three years past tax returns it would cost millions or billions because of the earned and child tax credits.


19 posted on 03/13/2017 1:46:14 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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Kids living in Mexico. A tax deduction.

I thought the illegals DID get to file three years and it cost us a bundle. It didn’t happen? GOOD!!


20 posted on 03/13/2017 2:01:32 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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