Posted on 03/09/2017 10:30:46 PM PST by TBP
Conservative groups are now campaigning for the defeat of the American Health Care Act, the bill introduced by House Republican leadership to allegedly repeal and replace Obamacare.
Heritage Action labeled the bill bad policy. FreedomWorks called it Obamacare-lite. And the Club for Growth said it is a warmed over substitute for government-run healthcare.
Senate Conservatives Action, the political arm of the Senate Conservatives Fund, is urging voters to contact their representatives to oppose RyanCare (or, Obamacare 2.0) and demand full repeal of Obamacare.
The truth is that RyanCare keeps Obamacare's most expensive coverage mandates, SCF President Ken Cuccinelli writes. [I]t keeps much of Obamacare's costly Medicaid expansion, it continues to impose penalties on people who don't keep their coverage, and it continues to provide government subsidies using a new entitlement program.
After campaigning on full ACA overhaul for years, and noting that Congress managed to place a full repeal bill on President Obamas desk in 2015, SCA notes GOP leadership could only come up with minor changes to the ACA.
Conservatives such as Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky. (A, 92%) and certain members of the House Freedom Caucus are urging Congress to, first, pass the 2015 repeal bill, and then move forward with a replacement bill from there.
The sad, but unavoidable, fact is that RyanCare will not lower costs and improve access to health coverage, but it will cause Republicans to own the disaster that follows, Cuccinelli writes, calling voters to action:
According to Senate Conservatives Action, only 20 to 25 Republicans in the House of Representatives and three to five Republicans in the Senate are needed to scrap RINOcare and send GOP leadership back to the drawing board on a true Obamacare repeal conservatives can get behind.
SCA provided the contact information for the following 20 members of Congress and urged voters to call and "insist on full repeal of Obamacare."
GOP REPRESENTATIVES
Jim Banks (R-Ind.)
Ted Budd (R-N.C.)
Bill Flores (R-Texas)
Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas)
Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.)
Tom McClintock (R-Calif.)
Alex Mooney (R-W.Va.)
John Ratcliffe (R-Texas)
Mark Walker (R-N.C.)
Roger Williams (R-Texas)
GOP SENATORS
Tom Cotton (R-Ark.)
Ted Cruz (R-Texas)
Joni Ernst (R-Iowa)
Deb Fischer (R-Neb.)
Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)
Mike Lee (R-Utah)
Rand Paul (R-Ky.)
Marco Rubio (R-Fla.)
Ben Sasse (R-Neb.)
Pat Toomey (R-Pa.)
(202) 224-3121. Call your local office as well, and email them.
They will tell you that this bill is better than Obamacare. It is, but only marginally. Obamacare 2.0, as Rep. Justin Amash called it. They could do so much better.
It retains the Cadillac tax -- although it's deferred to 2025. It repeals the individual mandate, yet re-enacts it in a different form by including a 30 percent penalty when you re-insure after being uninsured. IOW, the mandate via the back door. And refundable tax credits ARE subsidies.
Way too much like Obamacare. Only marginally different. The Republicans own it now.
I don't want to tinker around the margins. I want to get rid of it. All the more reason why we must kill the bill, and we must kill it with Republican votes.
How about re-passing the plan Obama vetoed? Apparently, it had enough support to pass, so why not pass it now when you have complete control of the government?
Even better -- the Paul plan.
Fortunately, I don't think RINOcare will pass the Senate, even if it gets out of the House. (They can lose 21 Republican House members and 2 Republican senators.) I believe there are already three Republican senators against -- Cruz,. Paul, and Lee. I wouldn't be surprised if Sasse turns out to be a no vote also.
They might not even get the opportunity, hopefully. Amash has already declared against the Ryancare plan. Hopefully, the Freedom Caucus will stand against it.
Blah, blah. blah.
Wait for Trump to recommend a solution.
He’s the only one I trust in Washington. On either side of the aisle.
“tell them to vote NO on this disaster.”
Tell them to amend it.
If the bill is killed Obamacare will live forever.
Arrest Ryan and Soros as Soros is Ryan’s boss. for what ? Treason
I hate Paul Ryan.
Ryancare is Obamacare
Cantorize lyin’ Ryan!
In case you haven’t heard, Trump’s come all out in favor of RINOcare
In case you havent heard, Trumps come all out in favor of RINOcare
WAIT FOR IT !!!
>In case you havent heard, Trumps come all out in favor of RINOcare
Nope. You’re being too literal.
After campaigning on full ACA overhaul for years, and noting that Congress managed to place a full repeal bill on President Obamas desk in 2015, SCA notes GOP leadership could only come up with minor changes to the ACA.
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What these people call “a full repeal bill” was actually “a full defund bill”. Hate to be the one who has to introduce some actual facts into this debate, but here is the Congressional Research Service summary of the “Obamacare Repeal” Bill Passed by the House and Senate and vetoed by President Obama. Looks more like “Obamacare Defund” to me.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3762?r=1
Shown Here:
Passed Senate amended (12/03/2015)
TITLE I—HEALTH, EDUCATION, LABOR, AND PENSIONS
(Sec. 101) This bill amends the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) to terminate the Prevention and Public Health Fund, which provides for investment in prevention and public health programs to improve health and restrain the rate of growth in health care costs. Unobligated funds are rescinded.
(Sec. 102) Funding for community health centers is increased.
(Sec. 103) Certain funding for U.S. territories that establish health insurance exchanges is no longer available after 2017.
(Sec. 104) The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) may not collect fees or make payments under the transitional reinsurance program.
(Sec. 105) This bill makes appropriations for FY2016 and FY2017 for HHS to award grants to states to address substance abuse or to respond to urgent mental health needs.
TITLE II—FINANCE
(Sec. 201) This bill amends the Internal Revenue Code to require individuals to pay back the full amount of advance payments in excess of their premium assistance tax credit. (Currently, there is a limit on the amount of excess an individual must pay back.)
(Sec. 202) Provisions relating to the premium assistance tax credit, reduced cost-sharing, and eligibility determinations for these subsidies are repealed on December 31, 2017.
(Sec. 203) The small employer health insurance tax credit does not apply after 2017. (This credit is for certain employers who make contributions toward employee health coverage purchased through a health insurance exchange.)
(Sec. 204) The penalty for individuals who do not maintain minimum essential health care coverage is eliminated.
(Sec. 205) Large employers are no longer required to make shared responsibility payments.
(Sec. 206) For one year, this bill restricts the availability of federal funding to a state for payments to an entity (e.g., Planned Parenthood Federation of America) that:
is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization;
is an essential community provider primarily engaged in family planning services and reproductive health;
provides for abortions other than abortions in cases of rape or incest, or where a physical condition endangers a woman’s life unless an abortion is performed; and
received a total of more than $350 million under Medicaid in FY2014, including payments to affiliates, subsidiaries, successors, or clinics.
(Sec. 207) This bill amends part A (General Provisions) of title XI of the Social Security Act (SSAct) to require the additional payments to U.S. territories for Medicaid under the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 to be made by the end of FY2017 instead of the end of FY2019.
This bill amends title XIX (Medicaid) of the SSAct to end the expansion of Medicaid under PPACA on December 31, 2017.
After 2017, hospitals may no longer elect to provide Medicaid services to individuals during a presumptive eligibility period.
States must maintain Medicaid eligibility standards for individuals under 19 years old through FY2017 instead of through FY2019.
The federal medical assistance percentage (FMAP, the federal matching rate for Medicaid expenditures) for U.S. territories is 50% after 2017 (currently, the FMAP is 55%).
The increased FMAP for childless adults and home and community-based attendant services under PPACA ends December 31, 2017.
After 2017, states may no longer elect to provide certain individuals with a presumptive eligibility period for Medicaid.
Medicaid benchmark plans are no longer required to provide minimum essential health benefits after 2017.
After 2017, states are no longer required to operate a website for Medicaid enrollment that is linked to the state’s health benefit exchange and Children’s Health Insurance program (CHIP).
(Sec. 208) Medicaid allotments for disproportionate share hospitals are increased.
(Sec. 209) The excise tax on high cost employer-sponsored health coverage (popularly known as the “Cadillac tax”) does not apply after 2017.
(Sec. 210) Health savings accounts (HSAs), Archer medical savings accounts (MSAs), health flexible spending arrangements (HFSAs), and health reimbursement arrangements may be used to pay for over-the-counter medications.
(Sec. 211) This bill lowers the tax on distributions from HSAs and Archer MSAs that are not used for medical expenses.
(Sec. 212) Salary reduction contributions to an HFSA under a cafeteria plan are no longer limited.
(Sec. 213) The annual fee on manufacturers and importers of brand name prescription drugs is eliminated.
(Sec. 214) The excise tax on medical devices is eliminated.
(Sec. 215) The annual fee on health insurers is eliminated.
(Sec. 216) Medical costs are allowed as a tax deduction regardless of whether the costs are taken into account when determining the amount of the subsidy for an employer-sponsored retiree prescription drug plan under Medicare part D (Voluntary Prescription Drug Benefit Program).
(Sec. 217) A tax deduction is allowed for medical expenses in excess of 7.5% (currently, 10%) of adjusted gross income.
(Sec. 218) The additional Medicare tax on income above a certain threshold is eliminated.
(Sec. 219) The indoor tanning services tax is eliminated.
(Sec. 220) The net investment income tax is eliminated.
(Sec. 221) A health insurer is allowed a tax deduction for the full amount of an employee’s compensation. (Currently, there is a limit on the amount of an employee’s compensation that a health insurer may deduct.)
(Sec. 222) Provisions relating to the economic substance doctrine are repealed. (The economic substance doctrine treats a transaction as having economic substance if it has a purpose other than reducing income taxes. Currently, there are penalties for claiming tax benefits for transactions without economic substance.)
(Sec. 223) Funds are transferred from the Department of the Treasury to the Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund.
Ryancare is AMENDED Obamacare. It needs to go. Rand Paul has a better alternative or just return to preObamacare healthcare.
Bump!
1. Let the GOP leadership in Congress do whatever the hell they want with their "health care reform." They can reform it, repeal it, sit on their @sses and leave ObamaCare in place, etc. It doesn't really matter.
2. Have some enterprising business and medical professionals -- you know, the kind of people who have been MAKING AMERICA GREAT for more than 200 years -- come up with a medical insurance or cost-sharing plan that is governed (or not) by the regulations in one or more states and saves its members a ton of money because it doesn't meet any of the ObamaCare or RyanCare requirements.
3. Tell Congress, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and the insurance industry lobbyists that own Congress to go f#%& themselves.
For Congress and President Trump it would be politically disastrous to take a stand against an alternative option for health care that costs a fraction of what the legal ObamaCare and/or RyanCare crap costs.
They will all negotiate and reach a deal or Obamacare will remain. It’s that simple.
Liberal republicans Murkowzki, Collins, and Kirk are prepared to kill anything in the senate. With only 52 republicans, losing 3 means losing any vote. Even the nuke option doesn’t help if you can’t get 50 votes.
We might hate that fact but it is reality.
Imo, the issue is getting the best deal that will ALSO pass both houses of congress.
That's right. But ObamaCare will not remain a burden for people if it remains -- because so many people (and insurance companies) will ignore it that it doesn't even matter anymore.
Basically, we are at the point where ObamaCare requires people to buy insurance coverage that most insurance companies don't even want to sell them anymore.
1. Proving the GOP is incompetent will be a blood bath in the midterm elections in 2018.
2. Leaving O’Care on the books is thousands of invasive provisions in a law that only awaits the dems being in charge again.
3. I favor negotiating and getting as much good as we can and killing as much bad as we can.
4. My major issue, actually, is getting rid of “death panel” type provisions of OCare. Tax credit is peanuts next to those big brother issues in my opinion.
It’s the GOPe aka Rat’s 2.0 ...
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