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Sorry Ben Carson Critics: Obama Also Referred to Slaves as Immigrants
breitbart ^ | CHARLIE SPIERING

Posted on 03/08/2017 12:10:33 PM PST by davikkm

Here is Obama in 2015:

Certainly, it wasn’t easy for those of African heritage who had not come here voluntarily and yet in their own way were immigrants themselves. There was discrimination and hardship and poverty. But, like you, they no doubt found inspiration in all those who had come before them. And they were able to muster faith that, here in America, they might build a better life and give their children something more.

Here is Carson:

That’s what America is about, a land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters, might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bencarson; obama; slave

1 posted on 03/08/2017 12:10:33 PM PST by davikkm
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To: davikkm

On the one hand, we have a patriotic American. He is a highly accomplished surgeon and a descendant of slaves who still loves America. On the other we have a half-Kenyan interloper. Not only not descended from slaves but from SLAVEHOLDERS and slavers on both sides of his family. And he hates America, was never proud of our country until he took power. Guess which one the media chooses to attack.


2 posted on 03/08/2017 12:11:01 PM PST by davikkm
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To: davikkm

As I suggested earlier, perhaps we should begin referring to first-generation slaves as involuntary immigrants.


3 posted on 03/08/2017 12:12:17 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: davikkm

Boom!


4 posted on 03/08/2017 12:12:38 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: davikkm

and Jesus was a ‘refugee.’


5 posted on 03/08/2017 12:12:45 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: davikkm

Regardless what Obama said, What Carson said was fine, he even referred to the slave ships in the same sentence. Plus uh, he’s black. More than Obama.


6 posted on 03/08/2017 12:13:31 PM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: chajin

Undocumented involuntary immigrants. To prove the slave connection, there has to be a bill of sale as proof somewhere..... :0)


7 posted on 03/08/2017 12:14:15 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: davikkm
Not only does the current "Progressive" fake outcry about this Carson statement reveal a deep hypocrisy, considering there was no outcry when the recent President Obama made the same observation, but the "outcry" exemplifies Progressive attempts to discredit good and decent Americans of all races and creeds who dare to oppose the "Progressive" and regressive ideology at the bottom of their opposition to Trump.

Carson's great strength includes a deep understanding of the principles and ideas expressed in the Declaration of Independence and incorporated into the Constitution which structures our government.

He fits the descriptions included in the following comments:

"We, the People" must be equipped to distinguish and between the principles that would keep America free and prosperous and the false premises that will enslave her, as well as able to articulate them. Accommodating tyranny by failing to call it what it is is dangerous. We need a leader whose words are strong and courageous and based in the principles of our Declaration of Independence.

American citizens need to wake up to the counterfeit ideas and false "hopes" offered by politicians who use "promises," just as the rest of us use "currency."

They buy votes with "promises" in order to gain power to themselves and their ilk. Then, when "hopes" are dashed, "the people" they have promised to help (the naive, the poor, the ignorant--even the "educated" who are ignorant of liberty vs. tyranny) find themselves enslaved, working for those who have purchased their power in the most despicable manner--by offering "hope and change." Thus it has ever been.

The people who founded America were not so "dumbed down." Hear two of them:

"It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens and one of the noblest characteristics of the Revolution. The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle [usurpation of power] and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle. We revere this lesson too much . . . to forget it." - James Madison

" . . . nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers, and destroyers press upon them so fast, that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon the American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the penshioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited, and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity, and frugality, become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, lusury, foppery, selfishness, meanness and downright venality swallow up the whole society." - John Adams

Further, it was not just the founding leaders who were well-informed about their constitution and approaching threats to its protections. By the Year 1830, when the French jurist Tocqueville traveled America, he wrote admiringly of the citizenry, observing that even the backwoodsman was far more well-read and informed than those in other parts of the world, and that they understood their Constitution, and had with them a Bible and a newspaper. Sadly, beginning in the mid-20th Century, our "government" schools removed the ideas of liberty from the nation's textbooks, largely under the guise of a counterfeit idea of "separation of church and state," and the citizenry is uninformed as to the difference between tyranny and liberty.

Today, with all modern means of communication, Americans possess little understanding of threats to their liberty and, thus, risk losing it to charlatans whose only goal is power.

Although Ben Carson's academic and work background were in the medical field, he is a man for all seasons in the ongoing human struggle for liberty, because he has cared enough about it to study its foundations, as well as the opposing ideas of tyranny. His contribution to a new administration may be profound.
8 posted on 03/08/2017 12:48:27 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: davikkm

I sure would like to have seen this tidbit about Obama casually dropped on to Mika and Joe’s show the other morning when this topic was discussed....


9 posted on 03/08/2017 12:53:44 PM PST by hecticskeptic
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All of this whining and tantrum throwing from the ‘RAT snowflakes and yet I’ve never heard one “media” bobblehead refer to America as being “a nation of immigrants and slaves”. What the...?


10 posted on 03/08/2017 1:25:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it. - Clint Eastwood)
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To: davikkm

Excellent contrast, thank you.


11 posted on 03/08/2017 2:04:24 PM PST by agrace
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To: davikkm

bump


12 posted on 03/08/2017 2:06:32 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: davikkm

It’s not possible to be a liberal and not be a hypocrite.


13 posted on 03/08/2017 2:47:43 PM PST by TigersEye (We all have a stake in MAGA! We all need to contribute our efforts.)
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