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1 posted on 03/08/2017 6:50:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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>>>he’s claiming that they were never the targets of FBI wiretaps

How would Rosenberg claim that, unless connected?


2 posted on 03/08/2017 6:56:09 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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This feels like the Bill Clinton wagging his finger in our face “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” moment, when the lap dog media ran with it...Oooppppssss, only to discover that there was blue dress...hahahaha!

Yeah, it feels like that!


3 posted on 03/08/2017 6:57:43 AM PST by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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Gee. Obola, and Clinton, and Hillary, and Podesta are not guilty because of how you define the meaning of “is”, “sex”, and “alone” “ and “ordered” ....

But Trump IS guilty because of how you define “wiretapped” and “target” and “inside the Trump Tower” .....


4 posted on 03/08/2017 6:58:37 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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Allah pundit, always towing then Democrat line.


5 posted on 03/08/2017 6:58:52 AM PST by RedWulf (#purge the nevertrumpers)
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The headline says “inquiry of Trump aides, but the targets of the intercepts were the Russians?

lol

It’s just great to watch the dumbocrats falling into a trap.


6 posted on 03/08/2017 7:01:12 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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I'm still confused by Flynn's resignation. We still don't know the gist of the real allegations against him. BUT I do believe it has to do with this "whole wiretapping of a presidential candidate"....looking for dirt....just like Watergate.

Someone should go to jail....Loretta Lynch is my first choice. Valerie Jarrett would be second. Comey my third.

The Russian Trump connection is as fictitious as the Benghazi "video".

7 posted on 03/08/2017 7:01:17 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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” It would be ...highly shady if the feds wiretapped the Russians only because they were trying to gather info on Manafort et al., a practice known as “reverse targeting.” “

Because we should trust the Obama administration not to have done that?

Also, the import of the new Wikileaks data dump is that the CIA has constructed a parallel electronic collection structure of its own unconnected to the NSA. Not sure this CIA capability would have gone through FISA. Perhaps, it should have. But did it / would it have?

If the intercepts were reported to the WH, why does Trump not have them? Is he really using his full powers as head of the executive branch?


8 posted on 03/08/2017 7:03:52 AM PST by Stingray51
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The NYT did NOT split hairs to make fine distinctions in the Jan. 20 newspaper. It wanted us to believe Trump and staff had done something worthy of snooping.

The nice thing is they always give President TrumpTHEMSELVES the benefit of doubt at least.

Now, having caused all the confusion over an already complicated story, confusion that, rightly or wrongly, is fully demonstrated in the circled image of that front page and the one (Mar. 4) in reversing themselves, they are stuck in their own tarpit. Couldn't happen to a better bunch of slimes.

9 posted on 03/08/2017 7:05:49 AM PST by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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10 posted on 03/08/2017 7:07:22 AM PST by doug from upland (Hey, traitor Democrats. I have a tree. I'm sure another FReeper has a rope.)
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"Mr. Manafort is among at least three Trump campaign advisers whose possible links to Russia are under scrutiny"

That certainly sounds as if they were targeted, and were not inadvertently identified via wiretaps of Russians.
11 posted on 03/08/2017 7:07:57 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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They didn't 'wiretap' the Russian Ambassador. He willingly wore a 'wire'.


12 posted on 03/08/2017 7:11:49 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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14 posted on 03/08/2017 7:12:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obama shredded our constitution with his TrumpTowerGate. Obama is today's Nixon!)
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However they are trying to parse it now, any reasonable person - based on the exact language of the story - would assume that the Trump associates were themselves wiretapped, and that is probably the impression the Times was trying to create. The article emphatically did NOT say, “Wiretaps of Russian diplomats have uncovered contacts with Trump campaign officials.”


15 posted on 03/08/2017 7:13:13 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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Trump tweeted om March 4 that he just found out about the wiretap. However the ny times article was dated jan 20. Those two things dont jive. Trump was not going by the times article but must have other info.


16 posted on 03/08/2017 7:14:02 AM PST by tirednvirginia ( But help is on the way!)
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There is a way all the puzzle pieces fit together and a clue comes in the precise words that are being used by everyone except Trump.

For example,this explanation perfectly explains Comey’s request of the DOJ.


19 posted on 03/08/2017 7:16:31 AM PST by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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So, Allahpundit, it must be perfectly legal to make public the words of the party that was NOT the target. That must be part of the law, written right into it: ‘if you intercept the words of an innocent American, NOT the target, that half of the conversation can be freely shared with any Leftist news outlet—providing the innocent party is a conservative.’

If not, surely the intelligent, sophisticated Allahpundit would have noted by how egregiously the existing law was broken.

Bol.


22 posted on 03/08/2017 7:18:58 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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Ah, there’s that Rosenberg name again. A blast from the past. And we all know what happened to Julius and Ethel. Wondering if this guy is related?


25 posted on 03/08/2017 7:20:47 AM PST by vette6387
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The story as I recall it is that Obama ordered or requested the authority to keep listening to the Trump aids, so in effect they were added to the wiretapping of the Russians. Otherwise, the government would have had to sign off soon after the conversation with an American started. Not that I believe those rules ever stopped them, anyway, but they wanted legal cover.

However, Bannon posted on FB that they have absolute proof they were tapped.


35 posted on 03/08/2017 7:36:00 AM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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If Flynn wasn’t the target, then the leak is a felony.

If Flynn was the target, then FISA docs will show it.

My bet is that flynn was not the target but that the felonious leak was one component of an attempt at a coup. There better be people in jail without pensions - or we’ll have this happening forever.


36 posted on 03/08/2017 7:45:24 AM PST by Principled (OMG I'm so tired of all this winning....)
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I’m not sure that with regard to the NY Times, the target of the wiretapping is relevant. It’s classified information and they were given some of that information. That’s a felony.


42 posted on 03/08/2017 7:56:28 AM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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