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New National Security Advisor doesn't believe in "radical Islamic terrorism"?
American Thinker ^ | February 25, 2107 | Ed Straker

Posted on 02/25/2017 5:47:03 AM PST by KyCats

President Trump's new National Security Advisor doesn't believe it is "helpful" to say the phrase "radical Islamic terrorism."

President Trump’s newly appointed national security adviser has told his staff that Muslims who commit terrorist acts are perverting their religion, rejecting a key ideological view of other senior Trump advisers and signaling a potentially more moderate approach to the Islamic world.

The adviser, Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, told the staff of the National Security Council on Thursday, in his first “all hands” staff meeting, that the label “radical Islamic terrorism” was not helpful because terrorists are “un-Islamic,” according to people who were in the meeting.

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To: KyCats

I think many of the people here on FR are unclear about how a businessman like the president goes about staffing his critical posts.

As a CEO, which is what in essence the president is, he first must look at the applicants or possible appointee’s ability to do the job. This is most critical because no matter what the appointee believes, he will be ineffective if he hasn’t the ability to get the job done.

His own personal belief (in this case) only of cursory importance and may be considered as a final scoring between two otherwise capable people.

Surely Trump sat with this individual after many of his closest associates did the same during the initial vetting process. It is or was the input he received in total from his staff which led him to appoint this man.

Bottom line is this man will either do what it is the president wants him to do or he will be replaced with someone else. After all a contender for a position in the Cabinet could as easily SAY all the right things and do quite the opposite. The thing to do is wait and see what he does in this position to support the presidents agenda before getting hysterical like little school girls.


41 posted on 02/25/2017 6:43:39 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: PTBAA

Agree. This is a difference with the president on a significant policy issue (i.e., identifying the enemy).

You can’t have key people who don’t share your views and agenda. I don’t care how qualified they are. This kind of thing only results in mixed messages and working at cross purposes.


42 posted on 02/25/2017 6:46:18 AM PST by Starboard
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To: New Jersey Realist

AAAAhahahahahahahaha!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!


43 posted on 02/25/2017 6:50:50 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: KyCats

I can see his point of view from a military counterinsurgency point of view.

That is, Muslims themselves do not distinguish radical from moderate in their numbers, and the military rarely engages in fights with non-Muslim allies fighting Muslims. So, when both your allies and your enemies are Muslim, calling it “radical Islamism” achieves nothing.

This is very different from the leftist perspective, that by calling “radical Islamic terrorists” what they are, you will *make them angry at you*. Which has got to be one of the most pathetic, lame brained ideas ever.

So, enter the National Security Council. Those who want to call it “radical Islamic terrorism” are strictly thinking about “calling a spade a spade”, which is a sensible thing to do *domestically*, when referring to terrorism in the western world.

However, as National Security Adviser, his view has to be worldwide, *including* Muslim nations, who get confused and upset when you call “radical Islamic terrorism” by that name.

We need their help or at least cooperation in stomping out “radical Islamic terrorism”, and to some extent they are willing to negotiate for it, if you couch it in diplomatic terms.


44 posted on 02/25/2017 7:03:43 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Leftists aren't fascists. They are "democratic fascists", a completely different thing.)
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To: All
NOT A RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORIST BY ANY MEANS---just a peace-loving Muslim cashing-in. Incidentally, this tale is very common in the peace-loving Muslim community...this one got caught b/c he murdered two Christians.

REFERENCE A federal criminal complaint detailed a Texas Muslims schemes to bilk the US govt: Claiming he couldn't work he scammed taxpayer disability assistance funds w/ complaints of fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue symptoms, affective disorders, and so on.

He maintained several addresses on the Texas property to facilitate various schemes and used various names.

He was collecting tax dollars for a son supposedly living overseas.

At the same time he was secreting real estate, jewels, vehicles and cash in US and foreign bank accounts.

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THE COMPLETE STORY OF A PEACE-LOVING MUSLIM
Texas Muslim---Serial Killer of Christians---on Disability and Food Stamps,
had Diamonds and 200 Credit Cards Hidden on Texas property

SOURCE Front Page Magazine | 6/20/2014 | Daniel Greenfield / FR Posted by Dqban22

This sort of thing is surprisingly common among peaceful Muslims -very few seem to have jobs but they drive around in luxury cars and are well-dressed and fed. The only reason this case came to light is because the Texas Muslim refugee committed two murders in Texas, one of which he actually got away with.

The murder of Christian believer, Gelareh Bagherzadeh, was reported earlier. Gelareh Bagherzadeh was an Iranian Christian who came to this country only to be murdered by a Muslim because she encouraged his daughter to marry the man she loved.

The Texas peace-loving Muslim claimed he was too disabled to work. But he wasn't too disabled to kill.

BACKSTORY The peacable Texan, a strict Muslim, was furious when his Jordanian-American daughter married a man without his permission. The Muslim, Ali Mahwood-Awad Irsan, blamed his daughters husband, relatives say. They say he also faulted one of her closest friends, 30-year-old Gelareh Bagherzadeh, a Christian convert who widely denounced Islam.

<><> First Christian-believer Bagherzadeh was killed, gunned down outside her parents Texas Galleria townhouse complex in January 2012.

<><> Eleven months later, Irsan’s son-in-law died after being shot multiple times in northwest Texas, in the Harris County apartment he shared with his wife.

The peaceful Texas Muslim thought he could get away with murdering because he had already gotten away with so many other things in Texas.

Federal authorities executed a search warrant at Irsan’s sprawling, 5-acre property 40 miles north of Houston, where they allegedly found cash, diamonds, pearls, weapons and phony passports hidden in attic rafters, in secret compartments throughout a cluster of trailers and outbuildings and even inside the buried drum of a clothes dryer at the Conroe, Texas property.

The peaceful Muslim Irsan, his wife Shmou Ali Alrawabdeh, and another daughter were subsequently arrested on a variety of federal fraud charges and are in federal custody.

A federal criminal complaint detailing the discoveries recounts a saga of nearly 20 years in which the peace-loving 57-year-old naturalized citizen from Jordan, and his family, allegedly scammed taxpayer disability assistance funds claiming “fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue symptoms,” and “affective disorders” while secreting real estate, vehicles and cash in US and foreign bank accounts.

The complaint also alleges the peaceful Muslim Irsan:

<><> was receiving taxpayer funds for a son not living in the US,

<><> maintained several addresses on the property to facilitate various illegal schemes, and,

<><> once disabled a safety feature on a saw then purposefully cut himself to receive a $75,000 settlement.

The peace-loving Muslim Ali was certainly industrious and entrepreneurial, just not quite in the way amnesty advocates like to claim.

UT-OH--Also found on the property was a makeshift gun range, which witnesses said “five or six Muslim families” frequently visited to fire AK-47s and information about Irsan’s attempts to get a silencer. Nothing to do with peace-loving Islam I’m sure.

The rest of the scam ......

While there have been no allegations of radical Islamic terrorist ties, the peaceful Muslim family's alleged (a) foreign bank accounts, (b) suspicious wire transactions, and (c) Muslim Irsan’s strict adherence to Islam may have been a motive in the alleged murders.

Authorities are also re-examining a 1999 case in which Irsan was not indicted after claiming self-defense in the shooting of son-in-law Amjad Alidam, who was married to Nasemah Rachelle Irsan.

Prosecutors also revealed, in connection to the social security fraud and credit card charges against Irsan, that they found more than 200 credit cards with various names and multiple variations of his own name throughout the home.

Arresting officers say they also found more than 40 similar credit cards in his wallet the morning the peace-loving Muslim was arrested.

His daughter also alleges, among multiple other schemes detailed in court documents, that Ali Irsan purposely disabled the safety device on a Ryobi rotary saw and purposely cut his own foot. Prosecutors say he used that injury to receive a $75,000 settlement from the manufacturer.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/muslim-killer-on-disability-and-food-stamps-had-diamonds-and-200-credit-cards/print/

45 posted on 02/25/2017 7:15:48 AM PST by Liz (Dems plan to regain power by stressing their "deep inate goodness" over "Trump's evil.")
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To: GOPJ; sickoflibs; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; Jane Long; no-to-illegals; stephenjohnbanker; ...

PING


46 posted on 02/25/2017 7:17:13 AM PST by Liz (Dems plan to regain power by stressing their "deep inate goodness" over "Trump's evil.")
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To: jjotto

That is brutally bad—right out of the Obama/Brennan speak/playbook.


47 posted on 02/25/2017 7:20:15 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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THE MUSLIM DOCTRINE OF TAQIYYA...ITS OKAY TO LIE TO A CHRISTIAN (AN INFIDEL) For those with a discerning eye, taqiyya is all around us. (a) Muslim refugees have pretended to convert to Christianity; (2) an Islamic gunman gained entrance inside a church by feigning interest in Christian prayers.

Examples abound on a daily basis. Muslims lie easily. Their lies get terrifying if it means killing Christians.

In Turkey, to get close enough to a Christian pastor to assassinate him, a group of Muslims including three women feigned interest in Christianity, attended his church for over a year, and even participated in baptism ceremonies.

Said the pastor: "These Muslim people had infiltrated our church and collected information about me, my family and the church and were preparing an attack against us. Two of them attended our church for over a year and they acted like family."

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DUPING THE POPE Pope Francis is urging they be taken in and aided.....the Pope took in a family of Muslim refugees into the Papal residence.....and spoke of his being transformed by them. Little does he know.

Muslims have a particular hatred for Catholics. Hate-filled Muslims are saving their most vicious attacks for the Pope: the Muslim plan is to hang him in public from the Papal balcony and turn the Vatican into a mosque.....which means destroying 2000 years of priceless works of art.

News outlets reported earlier scores of Muslims surrounded the Vatican....lying-in-wait in so-called Muslim prayer rooms.

48 posted on 02/25/2017 7:20:39 AM PST by Liz (Dems plan to regain power by stressing their "deep inate goodness" over "Trump's evil.")
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To: KyCats

This guy has apparently never read the quran.


49 posted on 02/25/2017 7:23:41 AM PST by onedoug
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To: HarleyLady27

Trump has made a number of Establishment appointments that are worrisome. So are you saying that this guy just chooses to lie to the world about ISIS and Islam? Somehow secretly knowing the truth while loadly denouncing it is gonna get the job done?

There is no daylight between him and Obama’s policies that I have seen so far.

The media has sucked up to the appointment from the start. We are going by his words as shown in videos. No politician is infallible. I’m all for Trump as I’m pretty sure everyone else posting here is—but that doesn’t mean that he can’t and isn’t making critical errors in staffing his administration.

If there are issues with Flynn such that he shouldn’t be brought back, bring someone back with his wise world view!


50 posted on 02/25/2017 7:24:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: New Jersey Realist

The radicals are the true Muslims. The so-called moderate Muslims are either lying or are apostate Muslims.


51 posted on 02/25/2017 7:28:02 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: 9YearLurker

I don’t always believe what is written, except in the Bible...

Man has a way to twist things around to make his point...I have mine, you have yours, others have theirs...

I have faith in Our President and he hasn’t let us down yet...


52 posted on 02/25/2017 7:28:30 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Fantasywriter

From a “senior writer” at NewsMachete.com. Read some of the titles from this guy’s obvious anti-Trump screed. Good lord.


53 posted on 02/25/2017 7:42:55 AM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: New Jersey Realist

There are no “decent” moozlums. All moozlums want you submitted (at least) or dead. It is just that most will not directly murder you. They will either directly or indirectly support those who would murder you and your family. Good lu8ck with all your moozlum “friends”.


54 posted on 02/25/2017 7:44:13 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: Lorianne
there has always ALWAYS been a radical element to Islam.

Mohammedanism is rotten at its core and at its core is Mohammed.

55 posted on 02/25/2017 7:56:22 AM PST by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Moslems only truce when they are well, asked the truce only lasts until they are strong enough again to break it.

In the book Enhanced Interrogation, James Mitchell quotes KSM recommending that he, James Mitchell, read Reliance of the Traveler. I recommend it also. It is freely available at UnconstrainedAnalytics.org, along with many other Islamic texts.


56 posted on 02/25/2017 8:05:06 AM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Liz; GOPJ; sickoflibs; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; Jane Long; no-to-illegals; stephenjohnbanker

In the first place, all these articles are based on the NYT story. The link in the American Thinker article does not seem to work.
Let’s see what Trump and others around him, as well as McMaster say before making up our minds.
However, if McMaster believes that terrorists will hate us more because of what we call them, I say that is preposterous.


57 posted on 02/25/2017 8:06:59 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Why isn't anybody talking about Visa entry-exit tracking?)
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To: KyCats

Zero attribution in the article regarding the alleged quotes. Not even an attempt to quote unnamed sources or someone else’s unnamed sources.

Simply more fake news until proven otherwise.


58 posted on 02/25/2017 8:08:02 AM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: New Jersey Realist

The “decent” Muslims are not following their “prophet”. They are ordered to kill “infidels”. I don’t trust any of them.


59 posted on 02/25/2017 8:09:35 AM PST by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Actually, this story is a good sign. The media are grasping at straws. What a dumb story. Turning a small comment into some big deal. Boring.

The shaming of the media is having an effect. The media will never give up, but when 63 million refuse to watch CNN, it hurts the pocketbook of CNN.

Another big problem: when you travel to Europe, what is the one US station being broadcast? CNN. So CNN is an instigator of evil worldwide.


60 posted on 02/25/2017 8:12:28 AM PST by poconopundit
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