Posted on 02/16/2017 4:35:33 PM PST by ameribbean expat
One of Gov. Greg Abbott’s emergency items moved one step further Thursday when a Senate committee recommended a resolution that would back a convention of states.
The Senate State Affairs Committee approved Senate Joint Resolution 2, by state Sen. Brian Birdwell, R-Granbury, which calls for a national convention that would allow states to propose amendments to the U.S. Constitution — an action that could only happen with a two-thirds majority, or 34 states, signing onto the idea.
(Excerpt) Read more at texastribune.org ...
The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a
two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a
constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the
27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention.
A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by
three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States).
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution
That happens to be one of the issues in Georgia’s application language, which 7 other states have signed onto. You can see a list of the 8 states in a previous post. There are other issues in the Georgia application which include financial responsibility and a rebalancing of federalism, i.e., the powers of the states versus the federal government.
In Louisiana, the state senate is much more liberal than the state House; in TX, it’s the opposite.
You’re right.
You had best surrender right now as you’ve no desire to fight.
For everyone else, using the system to fix the system is how we’ll fight. We will go into battle under the assumption that we can amend the laws and be victorious and not that we’re guaranteed to lose and everyone will stab us in the back.
The TX House is not conservative and can block anything that seems good to conservatives.
You’re right. We can’t trust anyone to do anything and even though an amendment will still require at last half the red states to join the blue states, something they’ve never indicated a desire to do, we can be assured this will happen because we’re all losers who won’t fight. That’s why next election you and me should get together and campaign for the Democrat. That’s the only surefire way to win. By giving up.
Their opposition isn’t based on knowledge but rather fear. They don’t want to know how their fears are completely irrational. They just want you to cower with them.
From the article:
Last year, Abbott proposed nine constitutional amendments, including one that would require Congress to pass a balanced budget and another that would enable states to overrule U.S. Supreme Court decisions with a two-thirds majority.
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The truth is, even if we reach the required number of states to call the convention, it is doubtful that the Congress will actually set idly by and let it happen. They would find a way to bargain away the threat. But the may be the whole point, make the Fed Gov again accountable. It is Totally Rogue now.
The huge, unanswered question is “What is the current actual count of states?”
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None of the 27 Amendments to the Constitution have come
via this convention of states process.
D@mn straight, all we need is a law that says you have to obey the law.
The US Constitution is broken. We need to repeal the 16th and 17th amendments. Art V is a good way to do it.
The USC is broken.
Once PRESIDENT TRUMP gets AMERICA back on track the CONVENTION of STATES will most likely be deemed unnecessary.
Only a few people seem to have noticed that Jacquerie. Really sad too. The truth is Congress can take that power away from the court but they refuse to do it. I think they actually hide their true agenda behind court decisions.
The USC is broken. That is how we got here. Trump can’t change that. Repeal the 16th and 17th.
Bump
1) Currently, 28 states (Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and West Virginia) have outstanding applications for an amendment to establish a balanced budget.
Seven more states have rescinded their application (Arizona, Delaware, Idaho, Oregon, South Carolina, Virginia and Wyoming). With the 2014 application by Michigan, the total of active plus rescinded applications equaled the 34 required to mandate a convention. Then, in 2016, West Virginia (like Ohio in 2013 and Michigan in 2014) made a first-time application for a Convention on the topic of a Balanced Budget Amendment. Likewise, in 2016, Delaware rescinded its 1976 application for a Convention on that subject.
2) Fifteen states (Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Maryland, Michigan, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia and Wisconsin) have outstanding applications for an amendment to limit income taxes. Thirteen more states have rescinded their applications (Florida, Hawaii, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Utah and Wyoming). Two particular wordings of applications have been submitted by over six states.
3) Fourteen states (Alabama, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas and West Virginia) have outstanding applications for an amendment establishing federal-state revenue sharing. Seven more states have rescinded their applications (Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Nebraska and North Dakota).
4) Fifteen states have expressly called for the repeal of Amendment XVI (Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, Wisconsin). Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Nebraska, New Jersey and Utah have rescinded their calls to repeal Amendment XVI.
5) Twenty states (Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington and Wyoming) have outstanding applications for an amendment establishing the right of a state to determine state legislature districts by a non proportional method. Eleven more states have since rescinded their applications (Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Louisiana, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma and Utah).
6) Ten states (Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, North Dakota, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia and Wisconsin) have outstanding applications for an amendment to alter the process of amending the constitution of the United States. Seven more states have rescinded their applications (Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, South Dakota and Wyoming).
Ping.
Ya’ll probably already saw this. I got up at 3:25 this morning to drive down. Testified. Waited for the vote then turned around to drive home. Long HAPPY day.
On to the full Senate now.
I pinged the entire ping list for this topic. It’s a good day’s work for you.
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