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A disaster at the Oroville Dam could easily become a crisis for Los Angeles too
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 13, 2017 | The Times Editorial Board

Posted on 02/16/2017 7:08:38 AM PST by artichokegrower

Southern Californians have been drinking from the Feather River — and washing in it, flushing with it and sprinkling it over their lawns — for nearly a half century without giving it much thought, so the emergency at distant Oroville Dam provides a jolting reminder of our dependence on the wetter, northern part of the state. A disaster there could easily become a crisis here.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; dam; featherriver; lakeoroville; losangeles; oroville; orovilledam; southerncalifornia
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To: artichokegrower

Raiders had a good year. If they move from Oakland, it’s the NFL in suicide mode again.

Activia’s got the most annoying ad about a female ref for the NFL, and what a pioneer she is.

Time to start putting urinals in women’s restrooms.

So done with the NFL. College is getting on my last nerve now too.


21 posted on 02/16/2017 8:19:00 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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To: artichokegrower

Found a Stanford U. study from 1960’s all about the water from Colorado vs Feather River as both were being considered as primary sources for the baby booming, Post WWII Southern Calif. Oroville was to supply the farming, industrial, household water, the Feather was the first stop on the long way South. If interested, let me know or search on the Wayback Machine.


22 posted on 02/16/2017 8:20:27 AM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: Rewrite all schoolbooks K-12!)
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To: lacrew

Californicators are removing dams for the fish to swim up rather than repairing the ones that are in use. Why do you need dams when it will never snow again due to evil Capitalism.

Pray America woke


23 posted on 02/16/2017 8:48:47 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: LS; artichokegrower
Artichokegrower, I thank you for the many Northern Calif artichokes I've eaten over the years. That's hard work you do and I appreciate the articles you post for us here.

Last night, I had a light bulb turn on above my head and mucho clarity filled my tired brain:

While growing up in the 50’s and 60’s, Californians took pride in the “water conservation” program its leaders were building via reservoirs and aqueducts rivaling the Roman system. Like all pioneers, they were building for the future needs of the state. Fast forward to 2017, the environazis are the new pioneers. They believe man is evil, progress is evil, roads are evil, and the only moral good is mother nature. The real Nazis asked German's to sacrifice for the fatherland; the environazis ask Americans to sacrifice for the planet.

The result is the same: destruction of the most advanced and beautiful civilization man has thus far created in his brief history. We are being plunged into a new Dark Ages. We cannot function without our electricity, our bridges and roads, our water. Our modern lives require them. Moonbeam, the Sierra Club, et. al., are nihilists who are religious fanatics about “going back to the earth.”. Remember that tired phrase? Sadly, there is no opposition powerful enough to stop them in Calif...yet.

24 posted on 02/16/2017 8:52:47 AM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: Rewrite all schoolbooks K-12!)
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To: artichokegrower

“LA destroyed the Owens Valley”

Not anymore! The LAWD lost a lawsuit over the amount of water they were taking from the Owens River. They were “happy” to destroy Mono Lake just to have water for their lawns.


25 posted on 02/16/2017 9:18:19 AM PST by vette6387
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To: LS
I not a big fan of insanity, but there you are. Is it the thumb of God forcing people to bend their knee to something when a tornado hits, or a hurricane or floods in the midwest and south, or blizzards? For the love of God lay off this inane God sent Trump lunacy. Trump is a man, that is all, he is in a position where he can do great good or great harm, I think all rational people are betting on and hoping for great good, but the kind of worship of him that some people are promoting is just, so, democrat and like that given to the kennedys and obamarangutan. And there is enough liberal insanity happening in other states that if God actually did the kind of thing you suggest a goodly portion of America would be scorched earth.
26 posted on 02/16/2017 9:21:46 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: CatOwner

I never thought of that. Plan A might be to remove the dam :(


27 posted on 02/16/2017 9:52:22 AM PST by lacrew
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To: The Westerner

Native Californian here, I get your drift - but in this case, the Sierra Club was one of three groups that sued the state in 2005 over conditions at the Oroville Dam - and lost. Republican Governator Arnold in place at that time...Hard to blame environmentalists when they were the ones banging the drum to fix the dam.

“In October 2005, as the Oroville Dam was going through a re-licensing process, the three groups filed a motion urging a federal regulatory agency to require state officials to armor the emergency spillway with concrete so that in the event of extreme rain and flooding, water would not freely cascade down and erode the hillside. The upgrade would have cost millions of dollars and no one wanted to foot the bill, said Ronald Stork, senior policy advocate for Friends of the River, one of the groups that filed the motion...Stork said he believes none of that would have happened had officials listened to his and others’ concerns and built a proper emergency spillway 12 years ago. The two other groups that filed the 2005 motion were the Sierra Club and the South Yuba River Citizens League.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/02/13/officials-were-warned-the-oroville-dam-emergency-spillway-wasnt-safe-they-didnt-listen/


28 posted on 02/16/2017 9:59:12 AM PST by GG-1
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To: Mastador1

You mean like Egypt. Gotcha. Bug off.


29 posted on 02/16/2017 10:30:52 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the 4Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: KC_Lion

Ryan Leaf!


30 posted on 02/16/2017 10:49:59 AM PST by ColdOne (( miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever!)
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To: artichokegrower

God must hate Jerry Brown - every time the Californians put him in charge, a natural disaster happens.


31 posted on 02/16/2017 11:28:50 AM PST by KosmicKitty (Waiting for inspirations)
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To: GG-1

Yes, that’s been discussed on these threads. If Sierra Club is fighting hard, it’s about plants and animals excluding man.


32 posted on 02/16/2017 12:31:28 PM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: Rewrite all schoolbooks K-12!)
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To: artichokegrower

Something that is not mentioned, is that Lake Oroville and the Feather River supply water via 700 miles of waterways not just to Los Angeles, but all the way to San Diego as well. They’re sucking the north dry by stealing all the water. There would have been no drought in the north if the water remained in the north.


33 posted on 02/16/2017 12:48:31 PM PST by roadcat
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To: artichokegrower
Sounds like a little "disaster envy" going on here.

Not to worry, the security and safety of California is in the competent hands of the Leftist Democrat "elites" who rule the people out here. (/sarc deemed unnecessary)

34 posted on 02/16/2017 12:52:28 PM PST by glennaro
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To: publius911

Drop a canyon wall on the viaduct.


35 posted on 02/16/2017 6:43:36 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: datricker

Blind thrust fault!


36 posted on 02/16/2017 6:46:32 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: The Westerner

California is a remake of the Roman Empire, and Los Angeles is just short of being sacked by the barbarians?


37 posted on 02/16/2017 6:49:55 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: KC_Lion

That would be hard.

But a burst dam would be pretty bad.


38 posted on 02/16/2017 9:49:45 PM PST by Impy (End the kritarchy!)
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To: artichokegrower

That’s why it is of utmost importance to improve the nation’s infrastructure


39 posted on 02/16/2017 9:54:25 PM PST by 353FMG (AMERICA FIRST.)
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To: KC_Lion; Impy

They’re close...


40 posted on 02/17/2017 5:23:59 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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