Posted on 02/12/2017 4:26:47 PM PST by janetjanet998
Edited on 02/12/2017 9:33:58 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
The Oroville Dam is the highest in the nation.
Thanks.
In the Bay Area, we have a good size storm, slowly passing through. Some weather forecasters are saying rain all day.
The big storm in S. Cali is heading north and will hit the Oroville area later.
That is a warm storm. Warm storms melt snow.
Reported on another site:
As per scanner:
Monitors have noted brown water coming from left drain hole, can you monitor?
[link to www.broadcastify.com]
Station Name ID Elev. Date/Time Value
INFLOW OROVILLE DAM ORO 900' 02/17/2017 09:00 31527 CFS http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/getAll?sens_num=76
OUTFLOW OROVILLE DAM ORO 900' 02/17/2017 09:00 79792 CFS http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/getAll?sens_num=23
Scanner:
“Confirm. We need four stepladders to monitor the gates.”
Uh oh
Nice.
Sounds like they may also need breakfast..
So Sean (periscope) just went to look at river- down about 12 “...and levee- saturated.
He ran into a couple of inspectors , not too wild to speak with him. Sean asked if levees were holding and guy told him- not my job to say.
Then he ran into a gal in uniform from AF base nearby...said she was there taking pics for her supervisor.
Now he’s going to get umbrella cause it’s raining pretty good...about 27 miles south of dam.
Ha!
FEMA stages at Travis AFB in response to Oroville Dam situation
February 16, 2017 Real Estate News
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February 16, 2017 7:09 pm | FEMA stages at Travis AFB in response to Oroville Dam situation
Team Travis has mobilized once again, this time to provide load space and a staging area at the Air Force base for Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) crews on standby in case of another emergency at the Oroville Dam.
Thursday, 44 FEMA trucks and a multitude of personnel were expected to arrive at Travis.
The trucks, according to Mike Hurley, FEMA logistics chief for District 9, were heading out from the Dallas/Fort Worth area and all are carrying everything from medical supplies to blankets to cots.
The staff, aka the Incident Staging Base Team, meanwhile, is traveling in from all over the U.S.
“The effort’s been ongoing for the last couple of days,” he said. He got the call Sunday and began making his own thereafter.
The first supply trucks came rolling in late Wednesday night, he said. FEMA officials had been working with state officials to determine what items might be needed, and those items were gathered and stocked in the trucks en route to Travis.
“This is in addition to what the state already has at the Chico Airport,” Hurley advised.
Once there, FEMA staff check the loads and inventory the trucks before parking. Should officials get the green light from their state partners, the trucks with the items designated as needed will head out.
“It’ll take about 1 1/2 to 2 hours,” he said, about drive time to Oroville.
“It’s all based on the president declaring a state of emergency on Feb. 14,” explained Veronica Verde, external affairs officer with FEMA’s SoCal field office.
There’s no stated end date for the operation.
“We’re going to be here as long as it takes,” Verde said.
FEMA officials are working out of a field office in Rancho Cordova, monitoring the Oroville situation with the state, she added.
“We’re doing a lot of planning and having a lot of conversations,” she said.
She emphasizes that, regardless of the situation, everyone should have an emergency plan, an emergency kit ready to go, and a conversation with family about where to meet should an emergency occur.
“Most important,” she stressed, “When the local government tells you to evacuate, evacuate.”
Col. John Klein, 60th Air Mobility Wing Commander, said Travis stands at the ready to serve.
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“It’s an honor to be able to support FEMA in their potential response to the spillway in Oroville,” he said. “We have the facilities, the geographical support base. We’re able to help.”
The last time Travis provided similar support to FEMA was in 2012, during the Hurricane Sandy situation, he said.
In 2005, Travis provided defense support to civil authorities in response to Hurricane Katrina, sending two C-5 Galaxy aircraft to deliver FEMA trucks to the area.
“We like to say here at Travis that we serve locally but we’re engaged globally,” Klein said.
He, too, said there’s no official end date for the operation, but affirmed that FEMA’s always welcome at Travis.
“The bottom line is, we’ll support them as long as they need support,” he said.
With FEMA nearby, Moonbeam can’t whine about federal assistance. I will note that rather than writing a check to California (which would likely NOT be spent on the issue at hand), the feds show up in person to deal with the situation.
If there’s going to be any federal assistance with the dam situation itself, it would be advisable to keep the state out of the money side of the process to the greatest extent possible.
Scanner:
Water has taken down a couple of trees and is showing sediment indicating a wider area of flow.
(Not sure where this is.)
.@MyAmerica120 on #Periscope: BOILS IN LEVEES ON FEATHER RIVER EMERGENCY LEVEL WORK IN YUBA CITY CALIFORNIA
Uh Oh! Hope that the Yuba City levee holds. There will be more water coming downstream over the next few days.
If Oroville Dam were to fail, people likely would be stuck
Although the dam isn’t in danger, warning system wouldn’t give communities time to get out
Updated: 10:56 AM PST Feb 17, 2017
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?s=ORO
Date / Time RES ELE STORAGE OUTFLOW INFLOW RIV REL RAIN BAT VOL
(PST) FEET AF CFS CFS CFS INCHES VOLTS
02/17/2017 00:00 863.37 2991747 80054 26455 93537 35.28 13.4
02/17/2017 01:00 863.02 2986842 79673 26965 93772 35.28 13.5
02/17/2017 02:00 862.77 2983341 79907 29501 93386 35.28 13.4
02/17/2017 03:00 862.42 2978445 79859 29346 93326 35.28 13.4
02/17/2017 04:00 862.15 2974672 79979 28044 93555 35.36 13.4
02/17/2017 05:00 861.81 2969926 80014 29734 93210 35.36 13.5
02/17/2017 06:00 861.47 2965184 79963 23018 92987 35.36 13.4
02/17/2017 07:00 861.18 2961145 79799 26991 92771 35.48 13.5
02/17/2017 08:00 860.86 2956692 79908 28930 92958 35.60 13.4
02/17/2017 09:00 860.61 2953217 79792 31527 92821 35.72 13.4
02/17/2017 10:00 860.27 2948495 79898 31627 92531 35.80 13.4
02/17/2017 11:00 860.07 2945720 79823 35530 92287 35.80 13.4
Inflow starting to creep up, now at 35530.
The water level is below the foot of the weir, I believe. That’s a big help.
The sooner that they are able to clear the channel from the dam back to where the spillway comes into the river (it’s “dammed” up by debris and silt), the sooner they can start generating again which will allow some 18000 cfs of water to flow through the dam.
The gained CFM from from the dam is just below the reduction in spillway CFM they need to dredge... channel better stay clear longer than the dredging takes else it is a net negative even with the extra 18k online.
If that’s the case, then it probably won’t happen until later next week. There’s some water coming downstream and I don’t know that they want to back off much on spilling until that gets down to a reasonable level.
Maybe they can do some “rough” or preliminary clearing while things are somewhat turbulent. But I don’t know - that might be unsafe. Those flat barges don’t look very sea-worthy.
They already backed off to 80k CFM... I’m being optimistic that that is the lowest they need to go to clear the channel and get the damn flowing... in retrospect, probably a really bad assumption! If they need to stop spillway flow to dredge, that is an entirely different ballgame.
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