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Hey Guys, Put a Ring on It
National Review ^ | February 9, 2017 | W. Bradford Wilcox & Nicholas H. Wolfinger

Posted on 02/09/2017 5:27:39 AM PST by C19fan

Marriage is not worth it. It’s not worth the financial sacrifices, the lost sexual opportunities, and the lack of freedom. All in all, it’s a ball and chain — of little benefit to any man interested in pursuing happiness and well-being. This is the view that we’ve encountered from many young men of late.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: adulthood; genderwars; marriage; men
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To: Albion Wilde

“Unlike our immigration program, most countries have standards, at least for whites or Christians.”

Spot on. It’s a project, potentially daunting. But, if one wants marriage and children, with a spouse from another country, it’s a consideration.

Fresh off the “press”:

http://www.returnofkings.com/114357/how-we-can-fix-the-problem-with-western-marriage

From the above^: “DNA testing should be mandatory.” 100000000%! If I ever have kids, they WILL have their DNA tested before I acknowledge them, legally or otherwise.


121 posted on 02/09/2017 2:14:46 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Praetorian
Goodness. Your post gave me the idea you were a worn out, world weary, and perhaps--- born loser. Life is an adventure, a little of this and that, some things important and others just there. Women and men are equally destructive in the marriage department. The odds go both ways. I hope your journey will bring you experience that will open your mind to a better view of love and life than you seem to have just now. Peace.
122 posted on 02/09/2017 2:29:20 PM PST by mountainfolk
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To: stilloftyhenight

Oh, I once had that.

21 years later, she left.

Now I have that special sense of losing everything and trying to start over. She even has half of my military retirement. For life.

So I’m fortunate I had my good times, but now the bad times are VERY deep and here to stay, so it seems.

I can honestly say, knowing it both ways, if I had to do it all over, I wouldn’t.

I know some of you might think, there’s probably something wrong with that fella, he’s just not saying, but...

You’d be wrong. I thought things were solid, both my AND her family says she just wigged out, and the lives of the kids were ruined forever.

But I do understand that life isn’t fair.


123 posted on 02/09/2017 2:31:53 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Same story except my work pension. Right down to the 21 years. I’m thankful for my 2 children. Life goes on teaching me things. Stay well.


124 posted on 02/09/2017 2:38:39 PM PST by Kudsman (Trump or bust 2016!)
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To: DNME

I agree with Tuffydoodle about perhaps your wife needing a doctor (in the form of bio-identical hormone replacement therapy). Ask her to read Ageless by Suzanne Somers.


125 posted on 02/09/2017 2:38:49 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Louis Foxwell

“Unless and until the cesspit of abortion/divorce/custody/support is resolved equitably for men there will continue to be an erosion of male commitment to marriage.”

Not to mention Uncle Sam taking the place of dad by giving welfare to unwed mothers. I’ve read where there are many instances of the baby daddy saying he lives somewhere else yet stays with mom and baby(ies) while the taxpayer subsidizes housing and benefits for the poor, single mother.


126 posted on 02/09/2017 2:41:50 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy

Lol. What you read is true. I visit several hundred residences a day. I can assure you it happens. A lot.


127 posted on 02/09/2017 2:43:38 PM PST by Kudsman (Trump or bust 2016!)
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To: BJ1
And risked getting divorced over a job transfer?

Got divorced anyway.

What was the downside?

Whatever happened to whither thou goest, hmmm?

128 posted on 02/09/2017 3:37:08 PM PST by null and void (Trump's critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
That's nice, but DNA or no DNA any children of the marriage are legally YOUR children.
129 posted on 02/09/2017 3:53:12 PM PST by null and void (Trump's critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it.)
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To: C19fan

“Man up and marry those sluts!”


130 posted on 02/09/2017 4:10:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: null and void

In the USA, sure. Outside of it? Not so much. That’s nice.


131 posted on 02/09/2017 4:17:34 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: ladyjane

Look at the muffin tops on the wommenz.


132 posted on 02/09/2017 4:18:47 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ladyjane

133 posted on 02/09/2017 4:19:45 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Ah. Thanks.

That being said, I adopted my ex’s daughter from a previous.

Good decision on my part, this weekend past she presented me with my first grandchild!


134 posted on 02/09/2017 4:22:07 PM PST by null and void (Trump's critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it.)
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To: tuffydoodle
Based on the Bible? Like the New Testament admonitions to obey your husband as Sarah did Abraham? Or to cultivate a godly and quiet spirit, so that even if the husband is in open disobedience, he may be won over?

...or based on the book of Oprah, with mutual submission and you go, g'rllll and Eat Pray Love, because empowerment?

135 posted on 02/09/2017 4:23:07 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Reddy

Worse than that, welfare requires the man to be out of the home.


136 posted on 02/09/2017 5:28:18 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

LOL - I was twinking you. A good looking nephew, that’s great. You are lucky. It’s a good thing. He is waiting for the right one.

At first, on this thread, all I could think was that there were a lot of unhappy guys here on FR. After reading more of the thread - I’m stunned. There are some people in very unhappy situations. It’s unimaginable - to quote the news about Fukishama - to be in a situation with a withholding cold spouse. How does one cope in a situation such as that? That is so wrong.


137 posted on 02/09/2017 6:13:36 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: grey_whiskers

“...or based on the book of Oprah, with mutual submission and you go, g’rllll and Eat Pray Love, because empowerment?”

Bingo! The propaganda is a >HUGE< part of it and most women are followers. Want to have a traditional marriage? Get a wife that won’t watch hours of “Oprah”, “Real Housewives of...” and “Sex and the City”.


138 posted on 02/09/2017 6:18:53 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: C19fan

When they learn how to make mama happy, they will be happy. Happy wife, happy life. That philosophy got me through 34 happy years.


139 posted on 02/09/2017 6:22:32 PM PST by sport
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To: grey_whiskers

It’s hard to debate with someone who picks and chooses Bible verses, out of context, to argue. That said, you need to read Ephesians 5:22-33 on how to live a marriage, for men and women.

Proverbs 31:10 seems to be appropriate on this thread: A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies.


140 posted on 02/10/2017 2:55:58 AM PST by tuffydoodle ("Never underestimate the total depravity of the average human being.")
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