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Fremont Red Light Cameras Seem To Have Mind Of Their Own (Or Are They Rigged?)
CBS San Francisco ^ | February 3, 2017

Posted on 02/08/2017 12:47:05 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 02/08/2017 12:47:05 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Liberals who vote for Big Government are getting SCROOOOOD by Liberal Big Government.

And I’m supposed to care WHY, exactly?


2 posted on 02/08/2017 12:50:04 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They are NOT safety cameras. They are revenue generators.


3 posted on 02/08/2017 12:53:14 PM PST by Mouton (There is a new sheriff in town.)
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To: nickcarraway

those red light cameras are sugar daddies. They make that bread. Millions of it. They aren’t malfunctioning. They shorten the time on yellow lights to trap people. There are numerous studies that show that they actually cause accidents instead of prevent them. People slam on their brakes and get rear ended most commonly. A horrid scam.


4 posted on 02/08/2017 12:55:23 PM PST by brucedickinson
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To: nickcarraway
In Rochester NY....they did away with the cameras...

Why...Union people and "poor people" were getting the tickets. In other words, the usual law breakers. I'd love to see the demographics.

It appears that any Union Workers that got a ticket got their tickets thrown in the basket....no fine and they kept no records.

It's one little dirty Dem city these days.

5 posted on 02/08/2017 12:56:36 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: nickcarraway

It’s pretty easy to notice a yellow light short. They had a couple in Rochester NY.


6 posted on 02/08/2017 12:57:48 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: nickcarraway

Yeah, mind of their own...and all the problems just happen to make more money.


7 posted on 02/08/2017 12:58:00 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: nickcarraway
You have the right to face your accuser in court.

The accuser in these situations are robots.

Subpoena the source code and threaten to publish it on the Internet.

8 posted on 02/08/2017 12:59:43 PM PST by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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The Toledo Blade did some research and discovered that the #1 recipient of tickets from speed cameras was.....

.....the City of Toledo.

Irony: The Mark of Quality Literature


9 posted on 02/08/2017 1:09:37 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ciaphas Cain
Subpoena the source code and threaten to publish it on the Internet.

I like how you think!!


10 posted on 02/08/2017 1:10:23 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

DANG! Why didn't WE think of that?!!??!?!?!?...........

11 posted on 02/08/2017 1:12:52 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: nickcarraway

All it would take would be a couple of cell phone videos of the light cycles to confirm or deny the quick changes.


12 posted on 02/08/2017 1:13:03 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Building the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It actually worked for me once. I filed to have the source code released to mecso that it could be examined and give its “testimony”. The company dropped the case like a hot rock.


13 posted on 02/08/2017 1:17:04 PM PST by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
The accuser in these situations are robots.

I don't know if that's true. My state used red-light cameras for a while under a pilot test program, then ditched it for a number of reasons. Every complaint had to be signed by an actual person who would effectively be the "plaintiff" in the case.

The best way to put an end to a red-light program is to convince everyone who gets a ticket to contest it in court. This forces the company that runs the program (and maybe even a police officer for that municipality) to send someone to court for the hearing. If enough people fought these tickets, the company would lose money just from paying the cost of having their employees working all the time.

14 posted on 02/08/2017 1:18:38 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Mouton
They are NOT safety cameras. They are revenue generators

Several states have established the minimum length of time that the yellow lights were on. It was done in the name of safety.

Camera companies and cities were cutting the length that the yellow lights were displayed to write more tickets.

It is very common for this to happen in states that don't set standards.

15 posted on 02/08/2017 1:22:17 PM PST by TYVets
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To: nickcarraway

In Colorado, the legislature wanted to outlaw them, but our not-esteemed Gov Hickenlooper blackmailed the Dems to withdraw from the bipartisan partnership to do this, so the legislation was withdrawn.

In the mean time, these citations are merely civil issues here and are mooted in 90 days with zero consequence if you ignore their letters and dodge any attempted civil service, which I’ve done successfully in the past.

Also, if the photo of the driver doesn’t match the gender of the car’s owner, they won’t even send out the letters. I’ve often contemplated always wearing a gorilla mask the few times I’m forced to drive in the City of Boulder as a means of thwarting their photo ticket BS.


16 posted on 02/08/2017 1:24:04 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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You are correct about the standards and that the lack was disgraceful.


17 posted on 02/08/2017 1:25:23 PM PST by Mouton (There is a new sheriff in town.)
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It will be 39 years ago next month, while cruising the streets of Moline, IL, one night night with my future wife, that I rolled through a red on one of their busier streets. I immediately said to her, “wow that was a quick yellow!” , and at the same time made a quick scan of the intersection, hoping I would at least clear it before it turned green for the cross traffic (which is usually about a second after the red). Then I saw it. Sitting in a closed gas station was a squad car....

I was not happy. So, armed with a stopwatch and clipboard, I did some research, and found that the yellows on that street, where the posted speed limit was 35, were almost a full second shorter than other cities in the area with the same speed limit.

I fought it at court but the judge said he wasn’t responsible for the city engineering dept, and made me pay the fine, but didn’t have it put on my record, because I had a clean one at the time. I paid up, and moved on.


18 posted on 02/08/2017 1:28:07 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Mouton

Short yellow lights cause deadly accidents.


19 posted on 02/08/2017 1:29:30 PM PST by TYVets
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To: JimRed

Traffic court is as close to a kangaroo court you will find. Contest and prepare to spend a long time there. Attempt to show a tape and be challenged unless you have one taken when you got the ticket.


20 posted on 02/08/2017 1:30:37 PM PST by Mouton (There is a new sheriff in town.)
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