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IS THIS A CIVIL WAR?
boblonsberry.com ^ | 02/04/17 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 02/06/2017 8:43:39 AM PST by shortstop

Where does this end?

The progressives’ rejection of the presidential election, the obstruction and social disruption – what is its purpose?

Is this the Democrats in 1861, or the Bolsheviks in 1917?

Four months after the Democrats warned that refusing to accept the outcome of the presidential election would tear the country apart, they are refusing to accept the outcome of the presidential election.

In coordinated nationwide demonstrations, in random outbreaks of campus violence, in shrill denunciations and boycotts, a secession has taken place. A non-geographic civil war has seemingly been declared.

In rejecting the outcome of an election in a republic, one rejects the premise of that republic, and the compact of citizenship. It is a nullification of the social contract. If, in fact, the president selected by a constitutional process is not your president, then it is not your Constitution. You have rejected it. You have stepped outside the group which declared itself with the words, “We the People.”

Certainly, a person or a party can dislike the outcome of an election – ask any conservative about the last eight years. But to reject the outcome of an election is to come out in open hostility toward the structure which defines a nation.

It is an act of rebellion and revolution.

And to throw fuel on that fire, to ratchet up the spending and the rhetoric, to pump the marketplace of ideas with ever more invective and anger, is to mash down on the accelerator of a car headed toward a brick wall. Enraging people, abandoning civility and comity, is how you build barricades, not bridges. This is not the spirit of the American Revolution, it is the spirit of the French Revolution.

And the master funders of the progressive movement are plowing millions into it. The leaders of the Democratic Party, in government and out, are claiming and shouting outrageous and incendiary things. The shrill zealots of progressive society are shaming and blacklisting and whipping the timid into conformity.

And you wonder where it goes.

What is the end?

Where do they want this to take this country?

What is the finish line these people seek to cross?

Is all of this to whip up passion for a congressional election that is still two years away, or a presidential election two years beyond that? Is it to paralyze and derail the function of the American government, to destabilize our nation, until the candidate of the mobs can be installed?

Do they want commissars to be appointed? Do they want an overturn of the presidency? Is it a coup they seek? Do they want to foment a social disorder that crumbles the organizational infrastructure of the American nation and people?

Or is there some form of release and relief in shouting their hatred for a president and his supporters? Is there an orgasmic thrill to be had in declaring half of your fellow citizens your moral and intellectual inferiors?

Or is it extortion? Are they hoping to buy something with their unrest, to squeeze from the government some concessions and autonomies?

Will there be a new flag, and a new capital – a new currency, and who will be on it?

The Democratic Party has established itself as a coalition of the disaffected. Is it now seeking to disaffect the entire nation, to turn it against its structures and institutions -- even its electoral voice? Americans have always been taught to support the constitutional government that protects their liberties, now they are being taught to actively hate it.

Mayors have used taxpayer resources to organize political protests. Weekly demonstrations have been decreed by sitting municipal officials. The fuehrers of the arts community have declared they are undertaking a war against fascism, and performers and business leaders are threatened with blackballing if they acknowledge a new president.

In 1950 you were blacklisted if you were a communist; in 2017 you are blacklisted if you are a Republican.

The loudest voices in our society are profanely denouncing what two hundred years of American experience have defined as the basic obligation of the citizenry – to live by the Constitution. If social disruption is to occur in the wake of a presidential election, then it was not a peaceful transfer of power. If one half of the electorate is to take its toys and go home, to throw a rage of destruction over its electoral failure, then their relationship with their fellow citizens is fundamentally abusive and hostile. If the progressives can’t have control of the levers of power, then no one can.

That is bullying, at best. And civil war, at worst.

And they keep pushing down on the accelerator.

So perhaps they should be honest enough to state their objective.

What is the end game?

What are they trying to achieve?

Is this secession? Is it revolution?

Or is it just a tantrum?


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: berkeley; democrats; insurrection; liberals; progressives; protests; rebellion; revolution; riots; sedition; trump
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To: GraceG
It’s a “cold civil” war

At this point it's a "snivel war". In real war, just the sounds alone would drive most of these snivelers under their beds.

61 posted on 02/06/2017 10:54:08 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: shortstop; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

What is their end game? Regaining control and imposing genocidal communism, anyone?

Combined General and Maryland “Freak State” PING!


62 posted on 02/06/2017 11:06:04 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Life was so much better before Hart-Cellar.)
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To: shortstop

It’s insurrection and sedition.


63 posted on 02/06/2017 11:09:52 AM PST by TigersEye (Winning. Winning winning winning every day!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

At the higher levels, they believe they are enacting an American Russian Revolution, with artists and intelligentsia dedicated to delegitimizing the current form of government while thugs destroy order in the streets.

The useful idiots down the chain of command believe they are reenacting the American version of France 1968.

Idle fantasies financed by the welfare state.


64 posted on 02/06/2017 11:26:41 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: shortstop

I don’t know; as purses can pack a mighty wallop!


65 posted on 02/06/2017 12:28:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Steve_Seattle
In other words, they want half the country pitted against the other half ...

Divide and conquer is STILL effective!

66 posted on 02/06/2017 12:29:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HLPhat

—who said “how profitable to rebuild after burns down”
exactly, and also “how easy to control.” Somebody is trying
to start if. And it is not us.


67 posted on 02/06/2017 12:29:48 PM PST by DCBourone ("Combat is the control of your adversary in not three but four dimensions")
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To: arthurus

Not out here in flyover country


68 posted on 02/06/2017 12:30:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: shortstop

Lonsberry bump for later.....


69 posted on 02/06/2017 1:14:36 PM PST by indthkr
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To: shortstop

The left is not letting Trump run the country the way a president should be able to. Therefore they are disenfranchising every one of us that voted for him.

Whatever happens next, they drew first blood.


70 posted on 02/06/2017 1:58:12 PM PST by Cubs Fan (Did we riot when they won? No, because we are way better human beings than they are.)
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To: G Larry
The first place to combat this anti-Trump nonsense is in the schools.

The left knows this. Schumer has declared that DeVos is the most unqualified of all Trump's picks. The liberals are holding an all-night protest of her confirmation vote tonight. The vote should take place tomorrow and will likely require Pence's tie-breaking vote to pass.

71 posted on 02/06/2017 4:11:48 PM PST by houeto
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To: arthurus

>>Prophetable?

Kinda like propping up ISIS has been for the Clinton Regime Change Investment Club.


72 posted on 02/06/2017 4:50:31 PM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: shortstop

What is the end game?

The left’s destruction. Never interfere with your enemy when it’s destroying itself.


73 posted on 02/06/2017 5:04:46 PM PST by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: shortstop

The endgame of the puppet masters is Marxist globalism. America can’t be an independent, self interested, capitalist, constitutional Nation anymore if globalism is to succeed.

Communists have always complained that it can not succeed unless capitalist, free nations are destroyed and brought under global communist rule.

It’s the survival of independent Nations versus globalism where all nations become states under the rule of global government.


74 posted on 02/06/2017 6:09:11 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: shortstop

Yes. They desire a socially justified utopia. Where everyone is equal (some more than others, such as them, of course). Everyone has the same money (again, except for them,as they will be in charge). Animal Farm comes to mind....
Despite communism’s failure in every country ever tried, they are convinced that they are smarter and have it figured out.
It is starting to edge into violence here and there. i wish it wouldn’t, not that matters. I suspect by summer, it will be going full force, with tons of protests, Obama and perhaps Hillary publicly speaking against Trump . All funded by Soros, of course.


75 posted on 02/06/2017 6:13:32 PM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Stay Calm and Carry.)
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To: HLPhat

The Clinton prophecies didn’t work out very well.


76 posted on 02/06/2017 6:57:31 PM PST by arthurus
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To: arthurus

Certainly not for Gaddafi or the folks expired by the sarin gas she allegedly supplied to the ISIS rebels in Syria.


77 posted on 02/06/2017 7:59:23 PM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat

For a site that has an abundance of Bible Prophecy exponents, the word itself and its homonym seem to be in some obscure dialect of Urdu. Actually they are both good English words with long histories of consistent meaning and use.


78 posted on 02/07/2017 1:07:54 AM PST by arthurus
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To: arthurus
>>some obscure dialect of Urdu.

The Focus on the Family facade prophetably propped up the shrubbery in English and, in that process, managed to obscure Jefferson's logos on the subject.

http://www.google.com/#q=%22Truth+is+great+and+will+prevail%22+site:www.focusonthefamily.com


"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;
 
...
 
 that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "
 
"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
 
No dialects, or dialectics, required.

79 posted on 02/07/2017 1:31:08 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Cubs Fan
Whatever happens next, they drew first blood.

By running their mouths and stamping their feet?

I think not!!

https://youtu.be/JrYtD7gSWsI?t=42

80 posted on 02/07/2017 4:35:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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