Posted on 01/30/2017 6:54:14 PM PST by beaversmom
With all the immigration uproar going on by the left, and some of other political stripes, because Trump simply wants to protect Americans and the values that have made our country great and get a handle on who is coming here, I thought I would look up some of Richard Lamm's talks.
Unfortunately, there's not that much out there of length and good technical quality that I could find in a cursory search, but this was a pretty good one in content of what was being said and quality of the clip that I came across.
Former three-term governor of Colorado, Richard Lamm, is a Democrat, and a lot of his ideas are born out of that line of thinking, but he's very right about immigration.
In this talk that I have linked, he is mostly confronting immigration from a sustainability argument, but as his famous speech entitled "I Have a plan to destroy America" (see below for the transcript) illustrates his reasoning about "too much" immigration encompasses more than how are we going to have enough natural resources for everyone.
I have a secret plan to destroy America. If you believe, as many do, that America is too smug, too white bread, too self-satisfied, too rich, lets destroy America. It is not that hard to do. History shows that nations are more fragile than their citizens think. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and they all fall, and that an autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide. Here is my plan:
1. We must first make America a bilingual-bicultural country. History shows, in my opinion, that no nation can survive the tension, conflict and antagonism of two competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. One scholar, Seymour Martin Lipset, put it this way: The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with its Basques, Bretons and Corsicans.
2. I would then invent multiculturalism and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal: that there are no cultural differences that are important. I would declare it an article of faith that the black and Hispanic dropout rate is only due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out-of-bounds.
3. We can make the United States a Hispanic Quebec without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently, The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved, not by tolerance, but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically, and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together. I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with a salad bowl metaphor. It is important to insure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences, rather than Americans emphasizing their similarities.
4. Having done all this, I would make our fastest-growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50 percent dropout rate from school.
5. I would then get the big foundations and big business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of victimology. I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was all the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.
6. I would establish dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity. Diversity is a wonderfully seductive word. It stresses differences rather than commonalities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each otherthat is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together, and we can take advantage of this myopia. Look at the ancient Greeks. Dorfs World History tells us: The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games in honor of Zeus, and all Greeks venerated the shrine of Apollo at Delphi. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet, all of these bonds together were not strong enough to overcome two factors (local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions ) If we can put the emphasis on the pluribus, instead of the unum, we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo.
7. Then I would place all these subjects off-limitsmake it taboo to talk about. I would find a word similar to heretic in the 16th century that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like racist, xenophobe halt argument and conversation. Having made America a bilingual-bicultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of victimology, I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact.
8. Lastly, I would censor Victor Davis Hansons book Mexifornia this book is dangerous; it exposes my plan to destroy America. So please, pleaseif you feel that America deserves to be destroyedplease, pleasedont buy this book! This guy is on to my plan. The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum. Noam Chomsky, American linguist and U.S. media and foreign policy critic.
Ha! I totally did not see your post. Must be in the air! Or great minds think alike. ;)
I think that speech went back to 2003..damn insightful
Thank You for posting beaversmom.
This post below on this this thread linked is what made me think of Richard Lamm, tbh.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3519421/posts
To: Pinkbell
The time has come for a moratorium on ALL immigration. From everywhere.
2 posted on 01/30/2017 4:40:21 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
Was he just on Mark Levin’s show?
Yes, you are right...2003.
Michelle Malkin talks about it here in 2008:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/09/i-have-a-plan-to-destroy-america-by-richard-d-lamm
I do not know if Lamm was just on Levin’s show, maybe he was just talking about it as someone else mentioned up thread, but I did come across old clips on You Tube of Levin talking about Lamm’s famous speech.
You are welcome.
thanks for the link...I haven’t followed Malkin in awhile...
You are welcome. So many people I used to follow, too, like MM, but I just don’t seek out as much. Not because I grew tired of them, but I just moved on.
bump
I just checked and it was posted on Levin’s site today.
I thought that had to be a crazy coincidence!
I have been saying this for some time.
It makes not sense to push abortion and birth control; then to push for unlimited immigration.
The only purpose of such a move is to replace one demographic with another.
From Michelle’s link the “...Destroy America” speech was done in 2004. Isn’t that infuriating? This isn’t a new problem at all as we all well know here. It’s been going on for decades. And what, of a concrete nature, has been done by anyone on any side?
Bushie could have done something about it had he chosen to do so. He HAD the momentum after 9/11! I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, but what did he do that was effective to stop millions of illegals coming in here? What did he do to tighten up immigration from Muslim/terrorist supporting/terrorist countries?
I can remember crying and saying to the TV while watching the buildings come down that maybe now President Bush would do something to protect us with the porous borders and freewheeling immigration, but he never did. And Obama certainly wasn’t going to do anything.
Now we pin all our hopes on the leadership of ONE man. I have no faith in the Republicans, in general. They all basically suck save for a handful of decent ones here and there. I don’t want our country to be let down again. So many forces are working against Trump. I just pray that some real, positive change will finally happen. I pray that Trump will be safe and hold steadfast.
lol...Well, I’m on the same wave-length as Levin, then, too. I don’t even listen to talk radio any longer. I basically gave all them up after Obama got into office in 2008. I just couldn’t stand to listen to any of it after that. It all seemed so futile.
I do believe he said that Social Security recipients have a duty to die and get out of the way. That was funny.
“Mexafornia” was published in 2007.
Levin played the audio of this again this afternoon on his show.
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