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Trump to Defer to Mattis on Keeping Torture Ban
Military.com ^ | Jan 27, 2017

Posted on 01/27/2017 8:36:45 PM PST by VitacoreVision

President Donald Trump said Friday that he will defer to the judgment of Defense Secretary James Mattis that torture and waterboarding should continue to be banned in the interrogations of terror suspects.

"He has stated publicly that he does not necessarily believe in torture or waterboarding or however you want to define it," Trump said of Mattis, a retired Marine general who had commands in Iraq and Afghanistan. "I don't necessarily agree, but he [Mattis] will override because I'm giving him that power."

"I'm going to rely on him" on so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques," Trump said, though "I happen to believe it does work."

Trump said Mattis told him in December that he could get more out of a terror suspect with "a pack of cigarettes and a beer" than he could with torture.

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KEYWORDS: first100days; jamesmattis; torture; tortureban; trump; trump45; trumpdod
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To: dp0622

What a great idea! Although even too cruel for ISIS? Nah! Let the torture commence.


41 posted on 01/28/2017 12:53:22 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

lol


42 posted on 01/28/2017 12:59:22 AM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: CincyRichieRich
From what I have read, Obama signed an executive order requiring the American officers and agents worldwide conform to Army Field Manual 2 22.3 (which prohibits the use of waterboarding). That same EO closed CIA black sites.

I think this could be easily overturned by a Trump EO.

43 posted on 01/28/2017 3:07:39 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: dp0622

Or just as worse, force them to watch this video and see how many seconds they can hold out before they start puking their guts up........

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yFAogBBGgBs


44 posted on 01/28/2017 4:33:32 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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To: VitacoreVision

A commander who empowers his other commanders - what a concept!


45 posted on 01/28/2017 4:34:50 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Psycho_Runner
I read General Mattis has a bear rug in his living room. It's not dead but too scared to move.

That has got to be the funniest thing I have read in decades!

Ooooh Rah!

Semper Fi, Gen. Mattis.

46 posted on 01/28/2017 5:01:15 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: txhurl
Or we could use piano wire like you saw through PVC with. More American craftsman-like.

You can saw through PVC pipe with cotton string.

Done it many times.

47 posted on 01/28/2017 5:06:15 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: VitacoreVision

Waterboarding is a mild form of data extraction. Use it or we will lose.


48 posted on 01/28/2017 5:15:19 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: VitacoreVision

He will defer to Mattis but I believe Mattis knows clearly how the President thinks on this subject and may have gotten the hint of what to do.


49 posted on 01/28/2017 5:27:41 AM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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To: CincyRichieRich
waterboarding is torture, don't be ridiculous.
50 posted on 01/28/2017 5:41:35 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: BwanaNdege

So have I, but takes a little longer :)


51 posted on 01/28/2017 5:54:15 AM PST by txhurl (Break's over, kids, back to WAR.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Can’t wait to Juan McLame try to bully Mattis.


52 posted on 01/28/2017 6:10:21 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: VitacoreVision

I had a boss once that had a “turn’em loose & let’em produce” theory of management. He knew that if creative productive people were just left alone that he, as boss, would eventually get the credit. He was right, this guy just kept going up the ladder.

This is apparently Trump’s style, and I like it. So opposite of micromanaging lefties.


53 posted on 01/28/2017 6:19:12 AM PST by redfreedom
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To: VitacoreVision

The President needs plausible deniability. He shouldn’t care how we get sensitive security info, just that we got it.


54 posted on 01/28/2017 6:22:36 AM PST by kevinm13 (Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX! "Net Neutrality" is government takeover of the Internet.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Understanding General Mattis is often complicated and amusing. Both smoking and alcohol are prohibited in Islam.(Quran & Fatwa 81589).

Another Mattis example is when asked where suicide bombers go, Mattis replied, everywhere.


55 posted on 01/28/2017 6:54:32 AM PST by Hillbilly sage
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To: VitacoreVision

Ollie North says waterboarding isn’t torture.


56 posted on 01/28/2017 6:55:13 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

If I were Trump, I would let the world just THINK that I will not use any enhanced interrogation techniques.

Won’t the prisoners be surprised when they hear water running? Ha-ha-fooled-ya!


57 posted on 01/28/2017 6:59:27 AM PST by homegroan (Liberalism is not just a difference of opinion or a "mental illness"; Liberalism is a CULT.)
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To: VitacoreVision

I don’t get the uncertainty over whether waterboarding works. If it’s been succesfully used to extract valuable information then it works. Surely this has been studied and is known. Yet the debate always seems to get hung on the question of whether it works.


58 posted on 01/28/2017 7:07:14 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: VitacoreVision

Trump is being a true executive, not an arrogant ego like Obama.

He picks people for the executive authority roles he thinks they will do a good job in. He may disagree with them, and on some matters he may override their choices. On some matters he may still prefer a choice different than theirs, but understanding they do not disagree on goals, he will let them have the choice they think best.

Each such difference of opinion has its own context, and a good executive is in the end looking at the goals as the chief priority, and will choose when any difference on means is a priority to them or not. Should there come a time when something happens that makes Trump think Mattis’ way caused a mistake, Trump may yet override Mattis.


59 posted on 01/28/2017 7:09:07 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Almondjoy

Yeah

Right.


60 posted on 01/28/2017 7:12:24 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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