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Roseville man gets $128 ticket for heating up car in own driveway
http://www.wxyz.com/news/roseville-man-gets-128-ticket-for-heating-up-car-in-own-driveway ^

Posted on 01/10/2017 5:35:58 AM PST by outpostinmass2

ROSEVILLE, Mich. (WXYZ) - Did you know you could get fined for heating up your car? One man's parking ticket has gone viral, with thousands of views after he was ticketed for heating up his car in his own driveway.

Taylor Trupiano says he's still shaking his head over a parking ticket he got on his own property.

"I thought it was some kind of joke at first, and then I was thrown back by it," he said. "I was really surprised."

The ticket was for leaving the keys in the ignition with the motor running and no one around. Trupiano said he was only doing something many people in Michigan do during the winter.

"I was in and out in probably about 7-8 minutes," he added. "So in that amount of time he ran up here, gave me a ticket and by the time I got out he was nowhere to be seen."

Frustrated with the ticket, he posted a photo on Facebook where he racked up thousands of comments and shares.

The Roseville Police Department ticket comes with a $128 fine. There is no state law against leaving your car turned on and unattended, but dozens of cities across Michigan have local ordinances.

"We have five to ten cars stolen this way every winter," Roseville Police Chief James Berlin said. "It's dangerous, and of course it drives everyone's insurance rates up. It drives our crime rates up."

Many of the ordinances will allow you to use a remote start because the vehicle is locked.

Berlin tells 7 Action News they will not apologize and in fact, he encourages his officers to enforce this law.

"It's common sense. We can't warn everybody of the law there is. Common sense says you don't leave your car running unattended," Berlin said.

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To: Mouton

That is a funny story with a happy ending.

I bet many police officers do stuff like this. Every day when I am drive they are going 80+ mph, but if I did that, I would get a $250 ticket. They are often on their phones too.


41 posted on 01/10/2017 6:14:21 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: MayflowerMadam

LOL! That makes sense!

Looking out at the two feet of snow, I might borrow your friend’s idea.


42 posted on 01/10/2017 6:17:05 AM PST by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump: I will bear the slings and arrows for you, the American people))
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To: Moonman62

I would say the law is constitutional based on what the police chief said.


Really? Living in a high crime area drives up insurance rates. Should people not own T.V.’s, jewelry, cash since criminals may trespass on their property to steel valuables?

Where would you draw the line? One can only possess clothing, food and water? Shall fines be levied for not locking the door to you house? Will people be required to have steel bars on their windows?


43 posted on 01/10/2017 6:17:34 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: Mr. Douglas

“You actually touched on one of my pet peeves.”

Mine, too. Libs don’t want the government in their bedrooms — except that the light bulbs must be “legal”, but government invading bathrooms and every other room in the house is just fine.


44 posted on 01/10/2017 6:18:14 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (If you think the party that freed the slaves are the racist ones, you probably are a liberal.)
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To: Mouton

The only “theft” that took place was the $128 fine by the police officer.


45 posted on 01/10/2017 6:19:04 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2

“I was in and out in probably about 7-8 minutes,”

Ah ha! So, he went back in for a quickie.

Sounds like he had his priorities right.


46 posted on 01/10/2017 6:19:14 AM PST by moovova
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To: freedomlover

They’re just after the money. Instead of a car thief getting the money, the city steps in and takes it.


47 posted on 01/10/2017 6:20:15 AM PST by BipolarBob (I thought money was burning a hole in my pocket but it was just my Samsung Galaxy 7.)
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To: outpostinmass2

He needs 2 car keys so he could lock it when unattended.


48 posted on 01/10/2017 6:22:51 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Mr. Douglas

If a teenage son backed “his” car into the parent’s car, in their own driveway, you can bet that the police would not come and ticket the son, as they would say it was on private property (IMHO).


49 posted on 01/10/2017 6:22:52 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: outpostinmass2

Where would you draw the line?

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I would say leaving an unlocked running car with the keys in the ignition in the driveway.


50 posted on 01/10/2017 6:24:42 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Common sense would have had an engine heater installed. No need to “warm up” the car.


51 posted on 01/10/2017 6:28:15 AM PST by onona (Keeping the faith will be our new directive for the republic !)
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To: NEMDF

In VA the police cannot enforce speed limits and stop sign violations on private property i.e. parking lots. Those things are suggestions. They can get you for reckless behavior/endangerment on private property which is what they do instead.


52 posted on 01/10/2017 6:29:15 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: moovova
If that was the case my car would run out of gas before I got back.

/rimshot

53 posted on 01/10/2017 6:29:45 AM PST by 11Bush
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To: outpostinmass2

The ticket was for leaving the keys in the ignition with the motor running and no one around.

Went into my favorite coffee shop a few years back and, as usual, the cops were there.

Said good morning to them as I do every morning and ordered my favorite black slime, laced with sugar.

Went to my and not only was it locked, it was no longer running.

I stood there dumbfounded.

Then thinking maybe I turned my car off and left the keys inside I returned and the cops started laughing.

One stood up and handed me my keys saying “It is against the law to leave your car running unattended”.

I laughed and replied “Then you guys would be breaking the law all day long”.

He then got serious with me and informed that anyone could have taken my car and committed a crime, then I would be without a car.

I got snippy and responded “Only an asshole would take my car or the keys and in any case they would be creating a compound act, over which I have not control and “Theft is not an act of permission on my part, it is an act of commission on your part”.

His buddies laughed and told him he probably should leave me alone.

I left and every morning after, we exchanged pleasantries.

Turned out he was a practical joker and really nice.

Friends to this day but, this poor guy got robbed by an idiot on an ego trip...


54 posted on 01/10/2017 6:30:11 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: outpostinmass2

You can bet your ass the cop warmed up his car (while not sitting in it) before leaving the precinct!!!


55 posted on 01/10/2017 6:30:32 AM PST by Married with Children
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To: freedomlover

Which can totally happen in today’s world with remote apps from all the automobile manufacturers.

Wanna start that car and get the cabin to the desired temperature before you leave?

No problem with Ford Pass.


56 posted on 01/10/2017 6:32:03 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: NEMDF

Yep. And I have 32 acres, which is typical for a lot of folks around here. Many of them have cars that are not insured or licensed that they use to get around their property. Imagine the cops coming on your property to ticket you because you warmed up your truck while getting your coffee ready.

This thing really violates the relationship between citizens and the state. They are supposed to work for us and stay the he!! off our property otherwise.

And the fact that people in gated communities are immune makes this unconstitutional. It is not equally enforced.


57 posted on 01/10/2017 6:32:50 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Pravious

“It’s common sense. We can’t warn everybody of the law there is. Common sense says you don’t leave your car running unattended,” Berlin said.”

It is not uncommon for someone, who is demonstrably wrong for their intent, to hide behind a legitimate reason, while their underlying intent is in contrast.

This guy is an asshat...


58 posted on 01/10/2017 6:33:27 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Mr. Douglas

It is a ridiculous ordinance that criminalizes the victim.

There is no reason why someone should take something that is not theirs and to hold the victim accountable.


59 posted on 01/10/2017 6:35:38 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Moonman62

Where would you draw the line?

...

I would say leaving an unlocked running car with the keys in the ignition in the driveway.


My choice, my driveway. And the policeman better have a warrant to enter my property.


60 posted on 01/10/2017 6:37:30 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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