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The U.S. doesn’t have a problem with Russia. It has a problem with Vladimir Putin.
Washington Post ^
| Jan. 3, 2017
| Garry Kasparov
Posted on 01/05/2017 4:59:29 AM PST by nuconvert
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There is no consideration of what is or is not good for Russia, or for Russians, only what is best for him and his close circle of oligarch elites. The 2012 U.S. adoption of the Magnitsky Act, targeting Russian officials tied to criminal repression, was answered by banning the adoption of Russian orphans by Americans. Western sanctions over Putins illegal annexation of Crimea were met by boycotting many foreign goods, harming Russian businesses and consumers to the perverse point of physically destroying thousands of tons of smuggled food in a country where many millions are battling hunger and poverty. Putins strategy is to get Russians to blame the free world by further punishing Russians himself. This can be countered only by being for Russia, but against Putin.
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To: T-Bone Texan
Agreed. The U.S. doesnt have a problem with Russia, nor does it have a problem with Vladimir Putin.You apparently can't read very well. Or did my earlier posts not show up on your end?
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:38:15 AM PST
by
ETL
(On the road to America's recovery!)
To: nuconvert
Americans have a problem with criminals, conmen, collectivists, Clintons, progressives, punks, socialists, scumbags, tyrants, totalitarians. Wake up world. Create your own destiny.
Here’s a start...
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/
list your grievances.
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:41:39 AM PST
by
PGalt
(CONGRATULATIONS Donald J. Trump)
To: ETL
I liked they way Trump said that he liked Schumer better than the Republican leadership one day, then calls him a clown the next.
Maybe Trump has mad chess skills as well.
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:42:58 AM PST
by
deadrock
(I is someone else.)
To: LostPassword
The US had had a problem with leadership. Obama/Hilary/Kerry have failed miserably with Russia, PutinThe Soros-supported Obama admin handed Putin everything he could ever hope for in such critical areas as missile defense and nukes, including the suicidal Iran nuke deal.
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From Real Clear Politics, Sept 10, 2015...
"In a 2014 New Yorker interview, Obama said his goal was to create a 'new equilibrium' in the Middle East.
In the short run, at least, his signature diplomatic undertaking can be counted on to bring more violence to this volatile region.
The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, as the [Obama-Putin Iran deal] agreement is formally known, provides the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism an infusion of somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 billion of unfrozen assets and a great deal more of continuing revenues as businesses and governments around the world rush to profit from oil-and-gas-rich Iran's reintegration into the world economy.
The agreement relaxes the international isolation of the Islamic Republic and ratifies Tehran's status as a nuclear threshold state. And it relieves restrictions on Iran's acquisition of weapons, including ballistic missiles. ..."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/10/iran_deal_throws_sparks_on_mideast_tinderbox_128034.html
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Re: The Obama-Putin Iran Deal...
Aug 2015
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:43:04 AM PST
by
ETL
(On the road to America's recovery!)
To: LostPassword
The US had had a problem with leadership. Obama/Hilary/Kerry have failed miserably with Russia, PutinFrom the campaign trail, 2008...
Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs
February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com
A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.
The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:
Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.
First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]
Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.
I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.
I will slow our development of future combat systems.
And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.
Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.
You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.
Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090412030633/http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp
"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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From Investor's Business Daily, Jan 2012:
Obama To Betray Missile Defense Secrets To Moscow
Investor's Business Daily ^ | January 9, 2012 | IBD staff Appeasement: From ObamaCare to recess appointments, honoring the Constitution has not been an administration hallmark. But when it comes to betraying secrets to mollify the Russians, it becomes a document the president hides behind.
It was bad enough that the 2012 defense authorization bill signed by President Obama set America on a downward spiral of military mediocrity.
He also issued a signing statement, something he once opposed, saying that language in the bill aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on the U.S. Standard Missile-3 - linchpin of our missile defense - might impinge on his constitutional foreign-policy authority.
Section 1227 of the defense law prohibits spending any funds that would be used to give Russian officials access to sensitive missile-defense technology as part of a cooperation agreement without first sending Congress a report identifying the specific secrets, how they'd be used and steps to protect the data from compromise.
The president is required to certify that any technology shared will not be passed on to third parties such as China, North Korea or Iran, that the Russians will not use transferred secrets to develop countermeasures and that the Russians are reciprocating in sharing missile-defense technology. ..."
"In his signing statement, Obama said he would treat these legal restrictions as 'non-binding' and that 'my administration will also interpret and implement section 1244 (sic) in a manner that does not interfere with the president's constitutional authority to conduct foreign affairs and avoids the undue disclosure of sensitive diplomatic communications.'
Betraying our secrets is easy for a president who betrayed allies Poland and the Czech Republic to placate Moscow.
Poland was to host ground-based interceptors such as those we've deployed in California and Alaska, with missile-tracking radar deployed in the Czech Republic.
Obama pulled the plug when Moscow objected. Never mind, he said, we have a better approach: a four-phase plan that calls for using three versions of the Navy's Standard SM-3 interceptor missile that forms the backbone of its Aegis missile-defense system.
The fourth phase consists of a missile still on the drawing board scheduled for deployment by 2020, a version of the SM-3 called the Block IIB. It would intercept hostile missiles in the "early intercept" phase before an enemy missile could release its warheads and decoys. The Russians want the SM-3's secrets, and Obama appears to be willing to turn them over.
The president wants to save the New Start Treaty, which the Russians have threatened to abandon if we try to fully implement President Reagan's dream of defeating a nuclear missile attack.
Russia has unilaterally asserted that any qualitative or quantitative improvement in U.S. missile defenses would be grounds for withdrawal from the treaty.
Read More At Investor's Business Daily:
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/010912-597158-obama-gives-russia-missile-defense-secrets.htm#ixzz3jXmMbVwY
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March 2012...
"Obama was talking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev when neither of them realized that their conversation was being picked up by microphones. Here is what they said:
Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it's important for him to give me space."
Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you ..."
Obama: "This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility."
Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir."
"This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility." That statement tells us much about the president's mindset.
The specific mention of missile defense is worrisome enough. Mr. Obama has retreated from the missile defense plan that was negotiated with European allies during the George W. Bush administration.
Apparently, he is signaling Moscow that he intends to retreat further. The clear implication from the president's comments is that he cannot tell the American people before the election what he plans to do after the election.
In addition, there is the phrase "on all these issues," implying more is at stake than just missile defense."
Article: Obama plans double cross on missile defense
When it comes to keeping America safe, we shouldn't be too flexible:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/29/obama-plans-double-cross-on-missile-defense/print/
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:44:40 AM PST
by
ETL
(On the road to America's recovery!)
To: nuconvert
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:44:58 AM PST
by
AdmSmith
(GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
To: AdmSmith
Doesn’t look like they did much damage.
Thanks for posting the link.
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:48:07 AM PST
by
nuconvert
( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
To: BBB333
I saw Kasparov interviewed on Tucker Carlson’s show. What became immediately apparent:
#1 Kasparov is a Globalist
#2 Kasparov thinks it is perfectly okay for Americans to sacrifice their children in defense of Europe.
Kasparov can go to hell.
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:50:19 AM PST
by
TTFlyer
To: madprof98
The adoption ban really was a response to the Magnitsky act, but the media justification was about an American adopting father who was taking the kid to the daycare before going to work, except he forgot he has a kid with him and left him in the backseat of the car where the kid died.
While this was a horrible case then when this was in the media a curious statistic came out - orphans in Russia die by 900 (!) times higher ratio than Russian orphans adopted to the US. It clearly wasn’t about child safety.
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:51:29 AM PST
by
Krosan
To: nuconvert
The police shot one of the terrorists
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:53:31 AM PST
by
AdmSmith
(GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
To: deadrock
Maybe Trump has mad chess skills as well. With his selection of Mike Pence as VP I'm becoming increasingly convinced that that is true. I was a little worried about him earlier on with all of his (supposed) flattery of Putin. Seems he (Trump) plays this game with a lot of people: one moment flatters them, the next calls them out for the crap that they are. He's done it with turds like NYC mayor DeBlasio and even Obama.
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:54:04 AM PST
by
ETL
(On the road to America's recovery!)
To: nuconvert
The hatred of Russia is motivated by the love of the political elites of the Uniparty-(Republicans and Democrats) for Saudi Arabia.
The Arab Spring juggernaut of the Saudis and all it has wrought was foiled by Russian support of the Syrian government.
The recent military victory of the Russian backed side over the Saudi backed side in Aleppo set the stage for the sanctions on Russia more than anything else.
The “hacking” accusation with its implication of Russia helping Trump win the election is something any and all Republicans should repudiate.
I would ask Pence and Sessions and others mentioned in previous posts on this thread if they believe Russia hacked the election to help Donald Trump, “Yes” or “No”.
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:54:42 AM PST
by
Nextrush
(Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
To: ETL
I am going off the memory of great book I read a few years ago, The 48 Laws Of Power. So far Trump is hitting his spots perfectly.
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:58:43 AM PST
by
deadrock
(I is someone else.)
To: Lazamataz
I take everything the WaPest writes, invert it 180 degrees, and realize THAT is the truth. While you are generally correct. This isn't WP article or editorial (which are generally interchangeable these days). Instead this is an opinion piece by chess Grandmaster and Putin opponent Garry Kasparov.
He argues that Putin is playing the US for a fool and that Trump, like Obama before him, does not understand (for very different reasons) the kleptocratic nature of the Putin regime.
Kasparov lets his animosity for Putin get in the way of sober analysis, however there are some valid points and concerns in here. I disagree that Putin is a pure kleptocrat, but he is a partial kleptocrat, partial nationalist deeply interested in growing Russian (and by extension his own) power and international stature.
The US can work with him in selective areas of common interest, but we cannot trust him. Putin has allied itself with Iran in Syria, and opposes ISIS only to the extent it threatens Russian interests.
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:59:06 AM PST
by
drop 50 and fire for effect
("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
To: nuconvert
2 are probably taken down by police, could have been 3.
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:59:14 AM PST
by
AdmSmith
(GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
To: TTFlyer
Kasparov is a Globalist...Kasparov can go to hell.Your guy KGB/FSB Putin is an expansionist. He longs for the "good old days" of the mass-murdering Soviet Union.
"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor"
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131219/185734707/Putin-Says-Stalin-No-Worse-Than-Cunning-Oliver-Cromwell.html
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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'..."
"The more I see and read about Mr. Putin, in power since 1999, and his 'managed democracy,' the more apprehensive I become about the future of Russia and the safety of its neighbors.
If Putin believes that the dissolution of the Soviet Union into 15 independent states represents the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,' then it follows that Putin might well believe he should do something to repair the loss..."
http://web.archive.org/web/20090415000000*/http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
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"The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century'," Putin said in 2005.
http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11102.30640.0.0/asia/moscow-puts-the-soviet-squeeze-on-neighbor-nations
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"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism's crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."
Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://web.archive.org/web/20100711090651/http://article.nationalreview.com/365528/forgetting-the-evils-of-communism/jonah-goldberg
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"The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century'," Putin said in 2005.
"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor"
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posted on
01/05/2017 5:59:15 AM PST
by
ETL
(On the road to America's recovery!)
To: TTFlyer
From Sept 2016...
Russia 'to revive the KGB' after Putin wins biggest majority
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 19 September 2016 3:39PM | Marc Bennetts
Russia plans effectively to revive the KGB under a massive shake-up of its security forces, a respected business daily has reported.
A State Security Ministry, or MGB, would be created from the current Federal Security Service (FSB) , and would incorporate the foreign intelligence service (SVR) and the state guard service (FSO), under the plans. It would be handed all-encompassing powers once possessed by the KGB, the Kommersant newspaper said, citing security service sources.
Like the much-feared KGB, it would also oversee the prosecutions of Kremlin critics, a task currently undertaken by the Investigative Committee, headed by Alexander Bastrykin, a former university classmate of President Putin.
The Kremlin has not commented. ...
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
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"For 16 years Putin was an officer in the KGB, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel before he retired to enter politics in his native Saint Petersburg in 1991.
He moved to Moscow in 1996 and joined President Boris Yeltsin's administration where he rose quickly, becoming Acting President on 31 December 1999 when Yeltsin unexpectedly resigned. Putin won the subsequent 2000 presidential election, despite widespread accusations of vote-rigging,[3] and was reelected in 2004."
"On 25 July 1998, Yeltsin appointed Vladimir Putin head of the FSB (one of the successor agencies to the KGB), the position Putin occupied until August 1999. He became a permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation on 1 October 1998 and its Secretary on 29 March 1999."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
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posted on
01/05/2017 6:00:03 AM PST
by
ETL
(On the road to America's recovery!)
To: nuconvert
America has a problem with rhe Washington ComPost.
To: nuconvert
Putin is only doing what is in the interest of Russia. It’s time the US had a president that did the same.
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posted on
01/05/2017 6:00:29 AM PST
by
HarleyD
To: TTFlyer
From a 2007 article titled "Putin's Russia"...
" KGB influence 'soars under Putin,' " blared the headline of a BBC online article for December 13, 2006. The following day, a similar headline echoed a similarly alarming story at the website of Der Spiegel, one of Germany's largest news magazines: "Putin's Russia: Kremlin Riddled with Former KGB Agents."
In the opening sentences of Der Spiegel's article, readers are informed that: "Four out of five members of Russia's political and business elite have a KGB past, according to a new study by the prestigious [Russian] Academy of Sciences. The influence of ex-Soviet spies has ballooned under President Vladimir Putin."
The study, which looked at 1,061 top Kremlin, regional, and corporate jobs, found that "78 percent of the Russian elite" are what are known in Russia as "siloviki," which is to say, former members of the KGB or its domestic successor, the FSB. The author of the study, Olga Kryshtanovskaya, expressed shock at her own findings. "I was very shocked when I looked at the boards of major companies and realized there were lots of people who had completely unknown names, people who were not public but who were definitely, obvious siloviki," she told Reuters.
Other supposed experts - in Russia and the West - have also expressed surprise and alarm at the apparent resurrection of the dreaded Soviet secret police. After all, for the past decade and a half these same experts have been pointing to the alleged demise of the KGB as the primary evidence supporting their claim that communism is dead.
From the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, the Russian security apparatus Cheka (and its later permutations: OGPU, NKVD, MGB, KGB) had been the "sword and shield" of the communist world revolution.
"We stand for organized terror," declared Felix Dzerzhinsky, the first chief of the Cheka for Soviet dictator Vladimir Lenin. In 1918, Dzerzhinsky launched the campaign of arrests and executions known as the Red Terror. Krasnaya Gazeta, the Bolshevik newspaper, expressed the Chekist credo when it reported approvingly in 1918 of the terror campaign: "We will make our hearts cruel, hard and immovable, so that no mercy will enter them, and so that they will not quiver at the sight of a sea of enemy blood."
Unflinching cruelty and merciless, bloody terror have been the trademark of the communist secret police, from the Cheka to the KGB. Obviously, the demise of such an organization would be cause for much rejoicing. Hence, when the KGB was ordered dissolved and its chairman, General Vladimir Kryuchkov, was arrested in 1991 after attempting to overthrow "liberal reformer" Mikhail Gorbachev in the failed "August Coup," many people in the West were only too willing to pop the champagne corks and start celebrating our supposed victory over the Evil Empire.
But, as Mikhail Leontiyev, commentator for Russia's state-controlled Channel One television, recently noted, repeating a phrase popular among the siloviki: "Americans got so drunk at the USSR's funeral that they're still hung over." And stumbling around in their post-inebriation haze, many of these Americans have only recently begun noticing that they had prematurely written the KGB's epitaph, even as it was arising vampire-like from the coffin.
However, there is really no excuse for Olga Kryshtanovskaya or any of her American counterparts to be stunned by the current siloviki dominance in Putin's Russia. For nearly a decade, even before he became Russia's "president," THE NEW AMERICAN has been reporting on Putin's KGB pedigree and his steady implementation of a long-range Soviet deception strategy, including the public rehabilitation and refortifying of the KGB-FSB. ..."
(continues at link)
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/8420-putins-russia
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posted on
01/05/2017 6:00:41 AM PST
by
ETL
(On the road to America's recovery!)
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