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Faithless elector: Time to 'pull the brake' to stop Trump
The Washington Examiner ^ | December 19, 2016 | Pete Kasperowicz

Posted on 12/19/2016 7:28:11 AM PST by kevcol

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To: kevcol
Riddle me this. December 13 is a "safe harbor," whereby state election board decisions made by that date are conclusive, and cannot be challenged even when the electoral votes are counted in Congress.

And now an elector votes for, say, Mickey Mouse, from a state that met its December 13 deadline. According to the law, this vote for Mickey Mouse is CONCLUSIVE as a matter of federal statutory law. CONCLUSIVE means, not to be questioned. And I just use Mickey Mouse as an extreme example. What if the elector votes for himself. or Bernie Sanders, or any other living breathing human being.

I mean, if electors are free to do as they will, what is the point of the safe harbor law?

21 posted on 12/19/2016 7:47:21 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: kevcol

Not a good thing to do. It is not good to have a historical reference which is parallel to Benedict Arnold. Think before you act.


22 posted on 12/19/2016 7:47:45 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Yo-Yo wrote:

“Indiana’s Electors have just cast all 11 of their votes for Trump.

Can you post that here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3506222/posts?page=1#1

And include a link to where you got the info (or if you heard on TV or radio).


23 posted on 12/19/2016 7:52:07 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: kevcol
A key comment this guy made, "Trump hasn't earned my vote."

No President-elect needs to earn any vote of the electors. The electors are to vote the way their state voters made a decision. How this man came to think that HE was the one voting of his own volition is beyond understanding. The word selfish or self-centered doesn't indicate the magnitude of this problem.

24 posted on 12/19/2016 7:52:36 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: kevcol

This guy’s forgotten the First Rule of Holes.


25 posted on 12/19/2016 7:55:51 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (SandyInPeoria just doesn't sound right... yet here I am.)
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To: kevcol

In a few hours, this will be much to do about nothing. This guy will be forever sealed in history as a traitor to those that believed in him. He’s become revealed as a fraud on many levels.

I’ve predicted that at least one person that was supposed to vote Hillary would support Bernie. And so it appears to be unfolding in Maine.

All said and done, it’ll probably just be these two that want to make a statement, name for themselves.


26 posted on 12/19/2016 8:05:42 AM PST by Professional
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To: lacrew

Isn’t that the process Cruz was screwing around with?


27 posted on 12/19/2016 8:16:37 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

While I’m sure there is some overlap in the groups, I think Cruz and neverTrumpers were hoping that delegates to the RNC convention would become ‘faithless’.

I also assume that since being a delegate to the convention is a lot more ‘fun’, and gives an opportunity to rub elbows with important people, it is very competitive to become one...while apparently being an elector is usually an invisible job at the local statehouse, and a con man can find a slot to fill.


28 posted on 12/19/2016 8:23:51 AM PST by lacrew
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To: Wneighbor; KC_Lion; LUV W; Windflier

Good for you, wneighbor!!

I admit I don’t know much about this process (electing the electors). I appreciate your activism.

EVERYONE in TX should make the same calls, that you have, to the TX GOPe...for WHATEVER it is worth.


29 posted on 12/19/2016 8:25:11 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow!)
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To: lacrew

Thanks for straightening that out. I remember now that he was working on the delegates.


30 posted on 12/19/2016 8:31:27 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: lacrew

Since being a convention delegate involves shelling out thousands of dollars, $5000 or more, and a week or more of time, it is less competitive than one might imagine to become what is basically an extra on a TV show.

Next cycle, more states are likely to follow the lead of Kansas and New York by appointing electors who are already high-profile political figures used to being ‘pressured’.


31 posted on 12/19/2016 8:40:09 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: kevcol

This is just about elector Chris Suprun getting publicity and facetime on networks such as this CNN appearance. Elector Chris Suprun is a nobody using his position as Elector to gain fame and publicity. He was even asked to write a NYT op-ed. He is just using his elector status to get his 15 minutes of fame. He is a nobody with no Honor.


32 posted on 12/19/2016 8:40:17 AM PST by lerker
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To: Wneighbor

Good for you for trying! We, the people, simply have no voice or clout where the machinery of government is concerned. We can only hope that his vote won’t mean much and he gets ridden out of town on a rail afterward!

He’s stupid...and you know you can’t cure stupid!


33 posted on 12/19/2016 8:46:09 AM PST by luvie (There is no global anthem, no global citizenship. We pledge allegiance to one country, America.)
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To: kevcol

Why is this charlatan still bleating his peculiar brand of nonsense as a putatively Republican elector from Texas?


34 posted on 12/19/2016 8:47:59 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: kevcol

The mans entire life is a lie


35 posted on 12/19/2016 8:56:02 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: lacrew

I think he was actually elected to his position in May, as part of the Texas state party convention.


Nice job of vetting this idiot by the State GOP.


36 posted on 12/19/2016 8:56:39 AM PST by Flick Lives (Les Deplorables Triumphant)
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To: kevcol
I just watched the Illinois electors cast their votes on C-Span...Pennsylvania will be on later.

It's a very solemn process...and very satisfying and uplifting to watch.

Mr. Faithless Elector (I don't even want to use his name) is the proverbial you-know-what in the punchbowl. He is a man who will live in infamy after his moments in the fawning media come to an abrupt end.

Leni

37 posted on 12/19/2016 9:03:27 AM PST by MinuteGal (GO TRUMP !!!.......GO PENCE !!!)
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To: Flick Lives

He’s a professional con man. I’m not at all surprised he fooled the local GOP.


38 posted on 12/19/2016 9:41:04 AM PST by lacrew
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To: Jane Long
admit I don’t know much about this process (electing the electors). I appreciate your activism.

Well, I don't know enough either :)

But I've been so angry reading about that guy and the nonsense he's spouted I just started looking up numbers and calling. I probably sounded off my rocker as I knocked my head and got a bad concussion 2 weeks ago. I was laid up till this past Friday and was stewing so I googled numbers at the Secretary of State’s Election office then the Texas GOP and just kept calling.

I tried to make a post about it on our FR Texas board but was so muddled from the concussion I couldn't string the sentences together in typing on my phone. But i was darned sure able to talk on the phone and say what I thought.

Apparantly our Electors are chosen before the election and they are set in stone unless they recuse themselves. Honestly I don't know if that's the case or if it's the GOPe line. But I'm still angry and embarrassed that this went on in Texas.

39 posted on 12/19/2016 10:45:51 AM PST by Wneighbor (Deplorable. And we win!)
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To: Wneighbor
Bless you!! I'm glad to see you're recovering/recovered from your concussion. And, what great use of your time, that you made.

I resolve to learn more about the process.

Merry Christmas, neighbor 🎄

40 posted on 12/19/2016 11:21:05 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow!)
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