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New Rule Could Require Cars to Communicate
National Association of Convenience Stores ^ | 15 Dec 2016 | NACS

Posted on 12/19/2016 5:33:58 AM PST by fruser1

The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking would enable vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) communication technology on all new light-duty vehicles, enabling new crash-avoidance applications that, once fully deployed, could help prevent hundreds of thousands of crashes every year by helping vehicles “talk” to each other.

In February 2014, Secretary Foxx announced the DOT would accelerate its work to enable V2V, directing the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to begin work on the rulemaking. NHTSA issued an Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in August 2014. The advancement of the V2V rulemaking complements the DOT’s work on automated vehicles.

The proposed rule would require automakers to include V2V technologies in all new light-duty vehicles. The rule proposes requiring V2V devices to “speak the same language” through standardized messaging.

Separately, the Federal Highway Administration plans to soon issue guidance for Vehicle-to-Infrastructure (V2I) communications to help transportation planners integrate the technologies to allow vehicles to “talk” to roadway infrastructure such as traffic lights, stop signs and work zones to improve mobility, reduce congestion and improve safety.

V2V devices would use the dedicated short range communications (DSRC) to transmit data, such as location, direction and speed, to nearby vehicles. That data would be updated and broadcast up to 10 times per second to nearby vehicles.

Privacy is also protected in V2V safety transmissions. V2V technology does not involve the exchange of information linked or linkable to an individual, and the rule would require extensive privacy and security controls in any V2V devices.

The notice of proposed rulemaking will be open for public comment for 90 days.

(Excerpt) Read more at nacsonline.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: bho44; nhtsa; technology; v2v
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In the name of safety, more power to the gov.

I imagine it won't be too long before this is used for automated traffic enforcement and giving the police the ability to stop your car. Even tax authorities could turn it off if you don't pay on time.

Regardless of security, hackers will be able to breach the system and turn your car off or veer for fun.

1 posted on 12/19/2016 5:33:58 AM PST by fruser1
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To: fruser1

Inevitable, as we move to autonomous “driving”


2 posted on 12/19/2016 5:34:44 AM PST by montag813
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To: fruser1
Privacy is also protected in V2V safety transmissions. V2V technology does not involve the exchange of information linked or linkable to an individual...

Except maybe - oh, I don't know - the owner of the vehicle.

Privacy protection indeed...

3 posted on 12/19/2016 5:38:00 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: fruser1
Don't forget shutting it down when using it would cause you to exceed the per capita allotment of carbon output.
4 posted on 12/19/2016 5:38:52 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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Don't forget shutting it down when using it would cause you to exceed the per capita allotment of carbon output.

My faith in FR is slowly being restored! It didn't take but FOUR POSTS for someone to figure out just how abusive the Government could be with this "technology."

Right on, Rashptin. Right on.

I'd add: What happens when your car gets HACKED and some fat, 400lb, 40 year old hacker living in his momma's basement decides they don't WANT you to go home, they want you to drive over a cliff just for giggles?

I just got my second recall notice on one of my vehicles that I'd purchased back in August. The damn' car companies cannot make a car that's recall proof, how in the world are they going to make one that doesn't send the Government every bit of information possible, or isn't hackable by some fatass living in his momma's basement?!

5 posted on 12/19/2016 5:44:01 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: fruser1

I sometimes wish there was a way to transmit a message to another driver. Like “your taillight is burnt out.”


6 posted on 12/19/2016 5:47:10 AM PST by neefer (We're walking real proud and we're talking real loud again.)
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To: fruser1

All you communication are belong to us.


7 posted on 12/19/2016 5:58:55 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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To: fruser1

“New Rule Could Require Cars to Communicate”

I thought that’s what the horn was for...


8 posted on 12/19/2016 6:00:14 AM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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To: fruser1; Donald J Trump
1) Where in the Constitution is the Congress or any other branch of the government authorized to mandate that cars 'talk' to each other?

2) Hey Donald! Here's a prime example of regulatory overreach for you to quash! Make America Great Again!

9 posted on 12/19/2016 6:05:05 AM PST by NorthMountain (Northmountain)
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“I imagine it won’t be too long before this is used for automated traffic enforcement and giving the police the ability to stop your car”

That ability has been coded and hard wired into new cars for several years, now.

The last link is to get compatible equipment into the field for government employees to utilize it.


10 posted on 12/19/2016 6:06:00 AM PST by wrench
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To: neefer

Sometimes I’d like to send stronger messages than that.


11 posted on 12/19/2016 6:07:42 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: fruser1
Mercedes S700: "Move over Prius, I'm coming through.

Prius: "I'm telling on you"...

12 posted on 12/19/2016 6:11:04 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: neefer

Or how about...”Go the speed limit you idiot?”


13 posted on 12/19/2016 6:12:53 AM PST by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: fruser1
Great.

ADS-B for cars.

14 posted on 12/19/2016 6:27:11 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: fruser1

Just how are they going to talk to a pedestrian jay walking or a child running after a ball that rolled into the street? Or the idiot who drives drunk, or high, or sick and runs into a house?


15 posted on 12/19/2016 6:29:40 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: Merry CHRISTmas, Happy Birthday JESUS CHRIST, suck it up buttercup you lost)
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To: fruser1

Convience store association - sounds like fake news - but the article mentions 360 degree situational awareness - so while traveling down the highway at 70mph a goofball in the opposite lanes slams on his brake - your vehicle responds with no warning - sounds like a great idea to me. . .


16 posted on 12/19/2016 6:30:24 AM PST by Plain Old American (Remember who said what; Remind those who don't Remember; Vote and take a friend to the polls)
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17 posted on 12/19/2016 6:31:39 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: fruser1
Ah yes.....what could possibly go wrong?

The laws of physics will be at front and center when a light duty king-cab pickup truck, traveling at 60mph tries to avoid a collision with a Prius that is in its path and moving at 35mph. All that inertia has to go somewhere. Will it be directed at another vehicle with 6 kids in it? Or will the truck simply roll over killing its occupant(s)?

18 posted on 12/19/2016 6:33:52 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted. It belongs to the brave. - - Ronaldus Magnus Reagan)
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To: neefer
I sometimes wish there was a way to transmit a message to another driver. Like “your taillight is burnt out.”

I've always thought a handheld flip sign with a number of pre-printed messages would be handy.

Just scroll through the messages until you see the one you want and hold it up so the other driver can see it.


19 posted on 12/19/2016 6:39:46 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted. It belongs to the brave. - - Ronaldus Magnus Reagan)
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To: neefer

There’s an idea there.

The ability to send a short range text alert to another vehicle to tell someone about problems seen from the outside could be helpful.


20 posted on 12/19/2016 6:40:00 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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