‘We’re teaching university students lies’ – An interview with Dr Jordan Peterson (long but worth it)

C2C Journal ^ | 12/1/16 | Jason Tucker and Jason VandenBeukel

[ClearCase_guy]

I’m glad I took the time to read the whole thing. Thanks.

[antidisestablishment]

Bookmarked. One of the most insightful, scholarly articles I’ve seen in decades.

[Chickensoup]

Agree. lets keep it bumped.

[Buttons12]

Interesting, but all over the place. Also, I suspect he wrote the questions or knew them in advance.
Best: "I believe now, with the exception of the science, technology, engineering, mathematics (STEM) branch, that universities do more harm than good."
Wish I'd quit reading before his thoughts on Trump and, later, ovulators.
Worst, x2 (he said it twice): "The idea that women were discriminated against across the course of history is appalling."
Jordan Peterson. Where Roger Scruton meets Archie Bunker. And I like both Scruton and Bunker, but I would probably not like this world-class psychologist if I encountered him in the hall. Nor accept an invitation to sail on his mahogany racing boat.
But you can learn from anyone. I never knew the riffer Jordan ran through Canada.

[Jakarta ex-pat]

"If you’re a student who can’t express your ideas without fear of being attacked by PC bullies, a professor who can’t teach the whole story without risking your career, or a politician terrified of becoming a negative headline, "

Grow some balls!

[Jakarta ex-pat]

"If you’re a student who can’t express your ideas without fear of being attacked by PC bullies, a professor who can’t teach the whole story without risking your career, or a politician terrified of becoming a negative headline, "

Grow some balls!

[Jakarta ex-pat]

"If you’re a student who can’t express your ideas without fear of being attacked by PC bullies, a professor who can’t teach the whole story without risking your career, or a politician terrified of becoming a negative headline, "

Grow some balls!

[b_Cap37]

Simple logical sequel to this interview: any current or prospective politician, at any level of government, henceforth must be subjected to the full Ludovico Technique to ensure he/she fully comprehends the messaging/warnings contained in it.

[Robert DeLong]

Good read. Thanks.

[Albion Wilde]

[H]uge swaths of the university are irrevocably corrupted: sociology, gone; anthropology, gone; history, big chunks of it are gone, the classics, literature, social work, political science in many places, and that doesn’t cover women’s studies, ethnic studies. They probably started lost, and it’s gotten far worse. I believe now, with the exception of the science, technology, engineering, mathematics (STEM) branch, that universities do more harm than good. I think they produce indentured servants in the United States because tuition fees have gone up so much and you can’t declare bankruptcy on your student loans. We’re teaching university students lies, and pandering to them, and I see that as counterproductive.

[Bogey78O]

This should be a primer for anyone discussing the issues.

[Lurker]

For later

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[Bogey78O]

Why is it the worst part? Do you think it is in error?

[b_Cap37]

FOLLOW-UP:

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-friday-edition-1.3786140/i-m-not-a-bigot-meet-the-u-of-t-prof-who-refuses-to-use-genderless-pronouns-1.3786144

[tbw2]

In one of Dr. Peterson’s Youtube videos, he rebutted someone saying it doesn’t matter, what can these human rights commissions do?
1. They can issue fines that the state will garnish from your paychecks/bank accounts.
2. Refuse to go to diversity training or obey their orders regarding ending discussion of a viewpoint or using X pronouns, they file with the regular courts to hold you in contempt.
The regular courts can then send you to jail for contempt of the human rights tribunal. SO YOU CAN END UP IN JAIL FOR DISOBEYING THEM.
3. They have in their documents that they can levy other types of penalties unspecified, whether it is public shaming or oddball punishments. Fail to obey those, and you’re sent on to mainstream court for contempt.

[KC Burke]

That is one of the great take-away quotes.

[VanShuyten]

Excellent article.

Everyone should ping all your FRiends’ lists, and ask them to read the entire article, and those of you who do Facebook, do the same.

[Non-Compliant_Deplorable]

Excellent article, thank you for posting!

[zeugma]

Interesting article. I'd quibble with this:

The final word in law is incarceration.

Actually, the final word in law is death. Every law has, as it's ultimate threat, that physical violence will be used on resisters.

Otherwise, he's pretty darn on point in the entire rather lengthy article.

[jonno]

Worth repeating:

“You asked what people can do. They can refuse. They can refuse to be pushed in this direction any further. Anything that’s predicated upon group identity, we need to get rid of.