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Michigan Preparing For Potential HAND RECOUNT of 4.8M Presidential Votes (facepalm)
Wn.com ^ | 7:10 p.m. EST November 25, 2016 | Kathleen Gray , Detroit Free Press Lansing Bureau

Posted on 11/26/2016 5:51:28 PM PST by drewh

The Green Party is crowdfunding $2.5 million to challenge the 2016 election results in three states. Video provided by Newsy Newslook

"What we're doing is standing up for an election system that we can trust. We deserve to have votes that we can believe in,"

(Excerpt) Read more at article.wn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2016recount; 2016swingstates; election; jillstein; mi2016; michigan; recount; stein
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To: MarMema
I believe they have one and we don't know it yet in full.

There are four end games as far as I can see. Two are unlikely (with one being way out in fringe, tin-foil hat land and the other just unlikely).

1) Create and spread enough FUD about Trump's legitimacy to damage his first term. I see this as the most likely end game scenario. I also see it as having a high probability of backfiring.

2) This is not about recounts, but is a money laundering operation being run by the Clinton Foundation. I view this as an unlikely end game scenario. Stein's involvement in it doesn't make much sense at first glance. Still, it's not out of the question.

3) Fabricate enough votes to flip PA and one of the others (probably MI since it's the closest of the three) and put HRC in the White House. I don't believe they will be able to do this without sparking a no joke armed confrontation. I see this as being nearly as likely #1. I also see it being unlikely to actually succeed, which is a good thing considering what the consequences of this succeeding would look like.

4) Least likely, most tin foil hat scenario: this operation is not actually supported by the Clintons, but is an independent operation run by Soros and Stein for the purpose of destroying the DNC as we know it. If the recounts were to successfully disenfranchise PA, MI, and WI, it would be the final nail in the coffin of the DNC in the upper Midwest for a long time. They'd be correctly seen as hypocrites for disenfranchising entire states after giving Trump the third degree about accepting the election results. The only reason this would happen is if Soros had found a new tool to work through and he decided the DNC had outlived it's short term usefulness. Also possible he'd bring the DNC down to rebuild it into something he likes better.
261 posted on 11/26/2016 9:02:36 PM PST by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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To: Windflier
If they can do that in WI, MI, and PA, Trump will have less than the required 270, thus throwing the election to the House of Representatives.

They can't be this stupid. If the electors from these states aren't appointed, the threshold for winning is no longer 270. It's 247. Trump would have 260. The Clinton campaign has to have a lawyer on hand smart enough to mention this.
262 posted on 11/26/2016 9:04:30 PM PST by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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To: Cololeo

Sorry, math fart. 260-232.


263 posted on 11/26/2016 9:15:13 PM PST by Cololeo
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To: CurlyDave

This actually makes me very nervous. All they need is three inner city (Democrat managed) areas in the three states to have tampered with ballots some time over the past month, with the fraudulent vote count to be done so close to the wire that there is no time to detect or counter the cheating with counter legal challenges.

It is unlikely that all the chatter about potential “Russian hacking” a couple of months ago was accidental—nor that they waited until the very last minute to pretend that the Soros-funded recounts, by Stein instead of Clinton, were being crowdsourced.

With the Obama administration staffers at the ready to stay in office for another month for the belatedly declared Clinton president elect to take office. Clinton has been staging otherwise purposeless “chance” photo ops for the last month.


264 posted on 11/26/2016 9:24:47 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: JamesP81

Only number 3 from among your scenarios makes sense, and armed conflict is something I expect an Obama or Clinton administration wouldn’t mind putting down from their seat of power.


265 posted on 11/26/2016 9:27:22 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: drewh

It is not crowdfunding .This is paid by a bot paid for by Soros

Busted! Jill Stein’s Election Recount Is Being Paid For By a Bot!

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=50879

Roger Stone on Twitter: “Jill Stein “recount funded by Soros

https://mobile.twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/802230392493404160


266 posted on 11/26/2016 9:39:04 PM PST by Democrat_media (bots are donating to Jill Stein's website for the recount. Soros behind big scheme)
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To: drewh

Why are the Trump team lawyers not fighting this coup attempt in court? tie it up in court.

They should have hired me instead of all these dummies just standing around letting soros and Hillary steal the election.

It’s not Stein. it’s not the green party behind this. its soros and Hillary the ones who will benefit behind all this so fight it and prove it but they are doing and have done nothing.That’s fundamental to fighting this. they don’t want to fight the pure greens and Stein but it’s not them

It is not crowdfunding .This is paid by a bot paid for by Soros

Busted! Jill Stein’s Election Recount Is Being Paid For By a Bot!

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=50879

Roger Stone on Twitter: “Jill Stein “recount funded by Soros

https://mobile.twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/802230392493404160


267 posted on 11/26/2016 9:41:14 PM PST by Democrat_media (bots are donating to Jill Stein's website for the recount. Soros behind big scheme)
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To: 9YearLurker
This actually makes me very nervous...

I am not that nervous.

There is going to be a recount in Wisconsin. No question, the laws are in favor of it. I don't think it changes the outcome, but even if it does, Michigan is our backstop and PA is our firewall.

Why do I say that?

The timeline for a recount in Michigan makes it very difficult for one to get done in time, and I think Trump has a very good case that Jill Stein is being frivolous asking for one. 9 days minimum until it starts, and 14 days max. Plus there is a good chance the Board rules against her. And, the Bush v. Gore precedent from the Supremes works in our favor. If they can't get the recount done in time, they can't start it. How long did they take to count the votes the first time? They have 5 days max to do it again.

PA is even better. No real provision for a recount, must go to court. It is not even obvious that Jill Stein has standing to ask for one. She can not possibly win, and it is obvious she is a proxy for Hillary. The court will probably look on this as a waste of its time. Plus, there are appeals and more appeals in a court proceeding. Trump can run out the clock on this pretty easily.

Even Obama doesn't think it is worth doing this. First time I have agreed with him in his entire life.

You have to understand the MSM needs to get more viewers or sell more papers, so they will prop up sensational ideas that are without any merit.

268 posted on 11/26/2016 9:47:18 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

You can’t take anything Obama says at face value. His team could very well have been coordinating with Soros, etc., all along.

And each precinct could do a rushed recount in short time, no doubt.

Also, they may have to go to court re: PA, but they also have a Democrat SOS in PA who would be on their side.


269 posted on 11/26/2016 9:51:24 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Alberta's Child

Yeah, which only hurts us, because the fraudulent voters are the dead and illegal voting for Dems.


270 posted on 11/26/2016 10:03:31 PM PST by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: CurlyDave
You think Soros and Hillary don't have plans to overturn all of this?

Trump and his lawyers should be fighting these recounts every step of the way in courts on twitter everywhere like they did for the election.Tie them up in Court.they were fighting hard up until the election.Then the media started with the president elect Trump bs to lull them into a false sense of security while the soros and Hillary Army plotted and Trump stopped fighting since nov 8. but Hillary has kept fighting for those 3 weeks so that's giving these monsters 3 weeks to go all this and the Trump team thought they had it won . it isn't won until the election is certified. The media fooled them and us and now they ‘d better get back into the battlefield fast or this is over.

271 posted on 11/26/2016 10:05:11 PM PST by Democrat_media (bots are donating to Jill Stein's website for the recount. Soros behind big scheme)
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To: drewh

It does sound ridiculous, but I fear they are emboldened by knowing that post election vote count cheating will be going on.

They will stop at nothing, and Hillary just won’t go away gracefully. I was hoping she would be out of sight and mind for good, but she just can’t let go.


272 posted on 11/26/2016 10:05:25 PM PST by Swede Girl
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Recounts work when you are down by like 2000 votes, NOT when you're down 70,000!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WTF are you going to find say an extra 35,001 votes for you?

273 posted on 11/26/2016 11:06:51 PM PST by KavMan
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To: drewh
is there anything to prevent Soros/Loserwoman 2016 from claiming fraud in a bunch of states and caling excessive recounts to muck up the electoral college certification? (thereby getting Mr. Trump under 237)

The clock is ticking. The deadline for challenges is set by each state, but all challenges must be resolved by December 13 under federal law. I imagine that any challenge with absolutely no chance of prevailing would alienate even local liberals in that state if the challenge was intended only to keep that state from counting. Other than not offending their own voters, a VERY low standard for leftists, state laws would present the only limits. They can try for court challenges, but at some point the courts would rule based on the probability of prevailing.

274 posted on 11/27/2016 12:00:06 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: wiseprince
Just challenge a bunch of Hillary states. California isn’t going to be able to so a state wide recount in time and they won’t be seated either...

I don't think that helps President Trump. Joining in the game gives that approach credibility. President Trump is probably better off staying above the fray and preparing for his inauguration, so long as he has a majority of unchallenged electoral votes.

275 posted on 11/27/2016 12:01:53 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I received an email yesterday from the Michigan goo. Asking me to volunteer for the recount. I signed up.


276 posted on 11/27/2016 12:50:10 AM PST by MomwithHope (Missing you /johnny (JRandomFreeper). THE LIBERAL BUBBLE HAS BURST!!!)
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To: MomwithHope

Goo = gop


277 posted on 11/27/2016 12:56:19 AM PST by MomwithHope (Missing you /johnny (JRandomFreeper). THE LIBERAL BUBBLE HAS BURST!!!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Remember, he only finds things out from the media. A source for this is being overlooked, maybe it was the media privately engaging with Soros, Clinton and Stein. The media has the ability to broker a deal for Stein sh she has her campaign debts paid in full along with a plum job if it is successful.

We know just how in the tank they were.


278 posted on 11/27/2016 2:44:38 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Angels27

Calm down...yes, he will be potus.


279 posted on 11/27/2016 3:21:13 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: FredZarguna
my gut after seeing the clinton crime syndicate work for the better part of 25 years...tells me that the demonrats think they have a media opportunity with Castro dying/thanksgiving news cycle etc to slip all of this stuff under the world news radar!

get down to one electoral voter margin by stauling electors in Pa and then let the chips fall where they may, indtimidation with electors calling political favors payoffs etc.. 'never let a good crisis go to waste' as Fishy says


280 posted on 11/27/2016 3:32:37 AM PST by drewh
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