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French presidential candidate: Jews wished to break our laws (Catholics too)
JTA ^ | November 23, 2016

Posted on 11/24/2016 12:30:57 PM PST by SJackson

Francois Fillon, a leading contender in the upcoming French presidential election, suggested Jews do not respect French law.

Fillon, a former prime minister who this week won the first round of the presidential primary in France’s center-right Republicans party, made the assertion during an interview Wednesday with Europe1 radio, in which he cited Jews as proof that Muslims may become better integrated.

“I think that sectarianism is increasing today within the Muslim community and that the sectarianists are taking that community hostage,” said Fillon.

“We need to combat this sectarianism and we need to do it as we have in the past,” Fillon continued. “We fought against a form of Catholic sectarianism or like we fought the desire of Jews to live in a community that does not respect the laws of the French Republic.”

Fillon did not elaborate on when he believed French Jews did not wish to respect the law.

Fillon, who knocked out former President Nicolas Sarkozy in the first round of voting on Monday, will face off against another former prime minister, Alain Juppe, in the second round of primaries next week. The first round of the general election is scheduled for April, 2017.

CRIF, the umbrella group of French Jews, addressed Fillon’s comments indirectly on the group’s Twitter account.

“The law of the land is the law – a Talmudic saying which requires Jews since antiquity to respect the laws of the land where they live,” the group tweeted shortly after the airing of the interview.

The winner of the second round of the Republicans primary is widely believed to be in a favorable position to win the French presidency. The Republicans is the new name of the center-right UMP party of former presidents Sarkozy and Jaques Chirac.

Polls predict that President Francois Hollande, a Socialist, will receive 18 percent of the vote — seven to eight percent less than Marine Le Pen, the leader of France’s far-right National Front party.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; crif; fillon; fillonjews; france; francoisfillon; frenchjews; jews
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1 posted on 11/24/2016 12:30:57 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

This statement will make Le Pen look even better, despite her father.


2 posted on 11/24/2016 12:33:51 PM PST by dfwgator
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How's fighting Muslim sectarianism going for France?

3 posted on 11/24/2016 12:36:10 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: SJackson

Do French politicians always go off the rails when they have a chance to win an election?


4 posted on 11/24/2016 12:45:53 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SJackson

The French state is an extremely secular state and after the French revolution there was reluctance by religious communities, of course also the Jewish, to be placed under state regulations.

Napoleon also desired for the Jews to completely assimilate, while many Jews wanted to retain their distinctiveness and costums.

A rabbinical gremium had to assure Napoleon that the Jewish community would be in conformity with French laws in order to get equal rights.

Fillon is referring to this... I detect no antisemitism here. Who is going to deny that many religious Jews were and are vehemently rejecting assimilation? See for example the attitude of many Haredi Jews towards the Israeli state.


5 posted on 11/24/2016 12:56:38 PM PST by SolidWood
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To: SJackson

Coming soon to a theater near you...Goodbye Paris, Hello Paristan.


6 posted on 11/24/2016 12:58:51 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: SolidWood
Napoleon also desired for the Jews to completely assimilate, while many Jews wanted to retain their distinctiveness and costums. A rabbinical gremium had to assure Napoleon that the Jewish community would be in conformity with French laws in order to get equal rights. Fillon is referring to this... I detect no antisemitism here

Who knows, odd comment given that he's referencing actions almost two centuries ago. And what about Catholics. France is a predominately Catholic country, how was it difficult to assimilate Catholics. Probably close to 100% of the country then. Up in the 80 percentiles now.

7 posted on 11/24/2016 1:01:48 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: SJackson
France is a predominately Catholic country

Maybe Culturally Catholic, at best.

8 posted on 11/24/2016 1:03:12 PM PST by dfwgator
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This statement will make Le Pen look even better, despite her father.

Le Pen Says as French President She Would Ban All Religious Symbols, Including Kippot

Le Pen is seeking to broaden an existing law, called the headscarf ban, that does not allow conspicuous displays of religious symbols in public schools to include all public areas.

She called the ban a struggle against radical Islam, but added that Jewish and Christian symbols would have to be included in the ban in the name of equality and the “national interest.”


9 posted on 11/24/2016 1:06:02 PM PST by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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To: SJackson

I understand his reference to Catholics to be in the same vein as I explained above.

There was historically a great (and often bloody) conflict between religious Catholics (often also Bourbon royalists) and the secular/anti-clerical French Republic.

See the Vendee rebellion.


10 posted on 11/24/2016 1:06:29 PM PST by SolidWood
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To: SolidWood

Gremium!


11 posted on 11/24/2016 1:17:46 PM PST by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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Fillon did not elaborate on when he believed French Jews did not wish to respect the law.

When a person makes a general claim, but refuses to cite specific examples to back up their claim, that suggests that their general claim is false.

12 posted on 11/24/2016 1:30:27 PM PST by grundle
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To: SolidWood

Yes , I also took it that he was putting himself on the wrong side of the Vendee persecution.

Le Pen is looking good.


13 posted on 11/24/2016 1:32:09 PM PST by agere_contra (I will be glad and rejoice in your love, for You saw my affliction and knew the anguish of my soul.)
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To: heartwood

There’s a German 1% outlaw biker gang called Gremium, too.


14 posted on 11/24/2016 1:34:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: grundle

Maybe the fear was that the French law would go Sharia? But they didn’t want to actually say so.


15 posted on 11/24/2016 1:35:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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We need to combat this sectarianism

Can start with napalm and TNT.

16 posted on 11/24/2016 1:35:54 PM PST by arthurus
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To: SJackson

To settle the problem with the Moslem jihadis France should expel the Jews?


17 posted on 11/24/2016 1:37:30 PM PST by arthurus
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To: SJackson

And they call Le Pen and anti-Semite?


18 posted on 11/24/2016 1:44:02 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Haha. I am reading German history books currently and had this (Latin) word on my mind.

The proper English word would be committee, commission or panel.


19 posted on 11/24/2016 1:47:40 PM PST by SolidWood
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To: SJackson
Wow, this guy hit the Triple Play: Anti-semite, Liar, and Complete Moron.

Claiming that the Jews will not follow a country's laws or form a 5th column with the country's enemies is as old as the exodus from Egypt.

Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.

And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we.

Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.

Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.

But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew.

I certainly hope that France regards this loser with the extreme scorn which he deserves.

20 posted on 11/24/2016 2:30:44 PM PST by EinNYC
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