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Rep. Tom Rooney Wants to Bring Back Earmarks for Water Project
Tampa Bay Times ^ | 11/17

Posted on 11/17/2016 11:27:04 AM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 11/17/2016 11:27:04 AM PST by nickcarraway
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The Army Corps of Engineers has a budget. Talk to them.


2 posted on 11/17/2016 11:28:51 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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“What we don’t support is the unintended consequence of giving unelected bureaucrats in federal agencies in Washington, DC a blank check and letting them decide whether or not to fund the economically-important dam safety, water quality, flood control, harbor maintenance and ecosystem restoration projects in our districts.”

Sounds reasonable.


3 posted on 11/17/2016 11:29:43 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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Donald doesn’t have an easy situation, but again now neither do these representatives, who used to be able to run on pork.


4 posted on 11/17/2016 11:30:55 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: nickcarraway

d that you gouht when Mom grabbed you by the Ear and Y-A-N-K-E-D HArd when you were naughty?


5 posted on 11/17/2016 11:33:07 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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The other side of this picture is pork barreling.

Donald is the Ideas Guy. He may be able to come up with a new way of addressing such issues. He will be wise to do so, being caught between the Scylla of this situation and the Charybdis of pork barreling.


6 posted on 11/17/2016 11:33:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Our constituents experience the consequences of the federal government’s missteps, delays and funding shortfalls and it is not only rewarding when we’re able to successfully intervene on their behalf, it is our Constitutional duty to do so responsibly and transparently.

One of the first big Constitutional battles was over "internal improvements". The question was: Does the Constitution allow the federal government to "improve" things? Can the feds build roads, bridges, canals, etc? or is that up to the States?

I maintain that they got it wrong: There is no Constitutional duty for Congress to build stuff for the folks back home. But perhaps block grants to the States would be allowed so that the State can intervene on behalf of the citizens. But block grants are not earmarks for cronies.

7 posted on 11/17/2016 11:33:24 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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It needs to be asked, why can’t this kind of activity be kept near states to begin with? Slash the Federal taxes till Uncle Sam can almost fit into a phone booth. Let states do whatever with their local taxes that they want.


8 posted on 11/17/2016 11:35:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Very reasonable. So don’t write vague over reaching laws and then delegate the whole mess to the executive branch. If you wish to regain control there is way do that with out engaging in Pork Barrel Spending. It is called legislation.

BTW. Where I live we fund and pay for our own flood control levy and dams. Id there some reason Rooney’s people cannot do like wise?


9 posted on 11/17/2016 11:35:36 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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Which would mean laws stating that “the Feds will build this, this, this...” but what is the difference between that and earmarking?

I think as Donald looks at this, the idea of states rising in importance, and the Feds falling in importance, will progress.

And somewhere, Davey Crockett is looking down on this and smiling.


10 posted on 11/17/2016 11:37:56 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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“He will be wise to do so, being caught between the Scylla of this situation and the Charybdis of pork barreling.”

Wow, you went full educated on us.

I hope he knows how to handle this, because I can’t think of anything that unelected bureaucrats do well.


11 posted on 11/17/2016 11:38:09 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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Damn these earmarks. There is always one ass that starts acting up. Pitchforks anyone? 😝
12 posted on 11/17/2016 11:38:44 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (these protestors are not anarchists. They are Hillary Supporting Demoncraps.)
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Instead of full redneck huh.

How about educated redneck?


13 posted on 11/17/2016 11:39:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

“Where I live we fund and pay for our own flood control levy and dams. Is there some reason Rooney’s people cannot do likewise?”

I don’t know. Economic duress?


14 posted on 11/17/2016 11:40:54 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I agree with that.

I will, however, also make the observation (more true 100 years ago than today) that a very developed state (like NY) can tax its citizens and build airports and highways and bridges — and that state can get better and better and better.

Meanwhile, a less developed state (perhaps W VA) is not able to tax its citizens very much and therefore has a tough time building improvements to become more developed.

Some federal money might help various parts of the country improve faster than they would on their own. But the main point about the Constitution (IMO) does override this observation — fact is, the states are alone in their responsibility for improving themselves. There is no justice in taxing people in 50 states in order to build a tunnel in MA.


15 posted on 11/17/2016 11:41:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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“The Army Corps of Engineers has a budget. Talk to them.”

Trump should put The Army Corps of Engineers out of business! They have become just an arm of the EPA. Here in the San Francisco Bay Area they go around designating man-made livestock ponds as “wetlands,” and if the creek behind your home that only has water in it during the winter, connects by any circuitous way to SF Bay, they consider it a “navigable waterway” subject to their jurisdiction. The funny thing is, we’ve never ever even seen a Coast Guard Cutter anchored out in ours at any time of the year!


16 posted on 11/17/2016 11:42:09 AM PST by vette6387
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Everybody makes fun of a redneck...till their car breaks down.

Another advantage is that people will always bet that you don’t know where a particular passage in Shakespeare is located.

“Act 5 scene 5? No way you know that. Fifty bucks says you’re talking through your hat.”


17 posted on 11/17/2016 11:43:58 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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“There is no justice in taxing people in 50 states in order to build a tunnel in MA.”

A “tunnel” that ended up costing all of us more than $20 billion dollars for those worthless a$$holes in Boston!


18 posted on 11/17/2016 11:43:59 AM PST by vette6387
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I had a chance to talk to one of their big boys years ago on a project.....Col Milton somebody...At the end of out call, I said "Okay Milt"...Have a good day.

In the end...I got our project approved....and the boss said I couldn't do it!! Always tickled me.

19 posted on 11/17/2016 11:45:28 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Florida should pay for it.


20 posted on 11/17/2016 11:46:21 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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