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This is a great interview that simply shows how stupid Jonathan Gruber can be and shows how the value of common sense over a degree from MIT.

BTW-I wonder how long it takes to "come out of a recession". We've been coming out of one for eight years.

1 posted on 11/15/2016 10:06:55 AM PST by HarleyD
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“antidote”?


2 posted on 11/15/2016 10:10:22 AM PST by RightInEastLansing
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Did grubby Gruber actually say “antidotes?”

The word is “anecdotes.”


3 posted on 11/15/2016 10:11:07 AM PST by Liz (Experience is a dear teacher, but fools will learn at no other. Benjamin Franklin)
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“Please don’t use the word ‘fact’ because you’re not saying facts, you’re saying antidotes.”

Gruber needs to work on his (very limited) vocabulary. Obamacare is the disease and President Trump is the antidote. Gruber must have been distracted by an anecdote about the one person in America who believe Obamacare helped.

5 posted on 11/15/2016 10:12:05 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Slowest. “Recovery.” Ever.


6 posted on 11/15/2016 10:12:33 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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Talk about stuck in the past. Do they think they know everything they will ever need to know when the walk out of college? That’s how it appears.


7 posted on 11/15/2016 10:13:19 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (NoHellary)
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Criminally stupid.


10 posted on 11/15/2016 10:18:24 AM PST by databoss
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11 posted on 11/15/2016 10:19:08 AM PST by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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Even worse, what is never reported is that a sizable chunk of GDP growth is fake because Obamacare is counted in.


12 posted on 11/15/2016 10:21:13 AM PST by DaxtonBrown
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I thought I smelled something...


13 posted on 11/15/2016 10:21:44 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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14 posted on 11/15/2016 10:22:19 AM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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We need an antidote for this ‘professors’ idiocy...................


16 posted on 11/15/2016 10:23:37 AM PST by Red Badger (In CHICAGO????...In Boston????....)
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By themselves arrogance and blithering idiocy are problematic, but Gruber has combined them into something truly mendacious.


17 posted on 11/15/2016 10:24:04 AM PST by Junk Silver
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“you’re saying antidotes.”

The American people are suffering because of the stupidity of Jonathan Gruber.

This guy needs to be indicted.


18 posted on 11/15/2016 10:24:56 AM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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I saw this interview this morning.
Maria totally owned that clown Gruber.
I was wondering if would run off the set crying for his mother.
19 posted on 11/15/2016 10:26:08 AM PST by StormEye
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“I don’t need data when I have the CEO telling me, ‘I'm not adding workers because of the cost of Obamacare.’ That is my data. I just spoke to the boss and he gave me the reason,” replied Maria.

“Well Maria, that is absolutely wrong. That’s not how you consider data,” he retorted.

CEO: I'm not adding workers because of Obamacare.

Gruber: You, too? Sheesh! I thought it was just the American voters who were stupid, but no, it's also Fox Business hosts and CEOs.

20 posted on 11/15/2016 10:28:13 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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Businesses are sitting on a record amount of cash. They aren’t spending it because they don’t like to take risks. They want certainty. When the president can fire an executive and take over his company, GM, or decree against long standing law who will take a haircut, the lenders or the borrowers, then they won’t invest. They won’t hire. They won’t expand. They will sit back and wait for the rule of law to return. Once Trump shows he believes in laws instead of government by personality the companies will start investing and hiring. (Then, all the money that Obama loaded into the economy will cause inflation like we haven’t seen since Germany in the ‘20’s.)


21 posted on 11/15/2016 10:29:08 AM PST by Gen.Blather (`)
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“I don’t need data when I have the CEO telling me, ‘I’m not adding workers because of the cost of Obamacare.’ That is my data. I just spoke to the boss and he gave me the reason,” replied Maria.

“Well Maria, that is absolutely wrong. That’s not how you consider data,” he retorted.


Well, Gruber may have a point. The testimony of 10 CEOs may not be how he considers data in his parochial and pedantic ivory tower wonky world existence.

In the more practical real world the rest of us are struggling in, however, it does define reality

On a more pertinent matter, why is this guy not under indictment for defrauding the American taxpayer

22 posted on 11/15/2016 10:33:23 AM PST by rdcbn ("There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alt)
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Antidotal evidence: Obama is repudiated and everyone but the mentally ill feel better.


23 posted on 11/15/2016 10:39:14 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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Gruber is engaging in sophistry. What a statist, crypto-fascist prick he is.

In macro economics, it is very difficult to prove direct correlation. You can’t ask millions of people why they made one choice over another.

But - we can know many things, via A PRIORI logic. For example, we believe the inverse relationship of price vs. demand to be true. Therefore, if the cost of autos rise, we can reasonably assume that all else being equal, demand for autos will decline. Economists create complex models on exactly this basis.

Conversely, if you put a high Obamacare tax and heavy regulations on new employment, if companies most effected stop hiring, you can easily infer that as a cause.


25 posted on 11/15/2016 10:42:14 AM PST by PGR88
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Gruber maintained that “doesn’t excuse” Bartiromo from “denying true facts.”

Denying "true facts" beats putting forth "false facts" any day...

26 posted on 11/15/2016 10:43:16 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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