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The USS Zumwalt Can't Fire Its Guns Because the Ammo Is Too Expensive
Popular Mechanics ^ | November 7, 2016 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 11/07/2016 5:47:10 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: vette6387

And the new tank the McNamara.


61 posted on 11/08/2016 1:11:13 AM PST by bIlluminati (Who is Horatio Bunce?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Early in WW2 we supplied our subs and other boats with defective torpedos. I believe many didn’t go off on target and the government wouldn’t do exhaustive tests because each unit was too expensive.
The government made it a crime for a ships crew to open and ‘fix the problem ‘. Men Died be of it. Crews tinkered and made them work anyway. Government is an ass.


62 posted on 11/08/2016 2:58:03 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Line the decks with Phalanx CIWS and use the missile tube/space for ammo storage - target Irtanian style small boat attacks. Or better yet forget the Phalanx and buy the Russian Kashtan CIWS.

Otherwise sell the ship for scrap.


63 posted on 11/08/2016 5:45:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

The Kashtan is supposedly not too well regarded by the Russian navy and export customers ... its missiles are not reliable.

The Russians are using the old AK-630 CIWS with medium-range SAMs on several of their new-built ships, India and China have also opted against going for new Kashtan orders.

A naval Pantsir is said to be in the works.


64 posted on 11/08/2016 6:01:12 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The solution seems obvious....... practice a lot and thus increase the market for the manufacturer thus lowering the unit cost per round


65 posted on 11/08/2016 6:05:23 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I thought of the AK, but did not know the Kashan was not as hot as the videos made out. Still, let’s compromise and have a live fire shoot off between the Phalanx and the AK on Iranian small boat swarms - the Iranians would get to test their tactic and we’d get to see who made the best Gattling-stye naval gun.


66 posted on 11/08/2016 6:06:37 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PAR35

IIRC, the U2 was a preexisting plane that they just attached longer wings to.

I saw the cockpit of a U2 once. The seats were made of wood!


67 posted on 11/08/2016 8:16:14 AM PST by T-Bone Texan
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To: dangerdoc

Powder bags cost nothing because we have hundreds left over from WW2.

Unless of course we destroyed them all for some inane reason.


68 posted on 11/08/2016 8:23:48 AM PST by T-Bone Texan
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To: PIF

http://trishulgroup.blogspot.in/2008/10/indian-navys-ciws-saga.html

Other than the great visual effect, neither the Phalanx nor the AK-630 are ideal for swarm boats. You are better off with a stabilized weapon system like the Israeli Typhoon and French Narwhal. A good compromise CIWS system is the 35mm Millennium Gun.


69 posted on 11/08/2016 8:53:12 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

OK then, let’s add your selections to the mix of the rearmed Zumwalt and see who the winner is.


70 posted on 11/08/2016 1:33:20 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Petrosius
Whose smart idea was this?

The Zumwalt-class destroyers were conceived in the late 1990s

I blame crystal meth

71 posted on 11/08/2016 6:33:10 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("Laws are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools" Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: T-Bone Texan

The fuselage was based on the XF-104 prototype (only two built). The XF-104 first flight was in March, 1954, and the Air Force rejected the U-2 design in June, 1954 with a first flight in August, 1955.

The U-2 was 63 feet long, and the XF-104 was a little over 49 feet, so there was clearly quite a bit of modification.

The F-104 was developed from the XF-104 (fuselage shy of 55 feet). The F-104’s first flight was in 1956.

So is the U-2 based on the 104, or is the 104 based on the U-2?


72 posted on 11/09/2016 6:52:37 PM PST by PAR35
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