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Donald Trump Voters, Just Hear Me Out
New York Times ^ | NOV. 2, 2016 | Thomas L. Friedman

Posted on 11/02/2016 6:16:41 AM PDT by artichokegrower

This is my last column until after the election, so I’d like to address the people least likely to read it: Donald Trump voters. Who knows? Maybe I’ll get lucky and a few of them will buy fish wrapped in this column, and they’ll accidentally peruse it! Desperate times call for desperate measures.

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To: artichokegrower

Hillary ass-kissers hear me out. I will never vote for a lying, corrupt, criminal sack of crap that takes money from our enemies, publically destroys the women that her husband sexually abuses.
If, God help America, Hillary is elected I will NEVER consider her the President. I will never address her as a President.


61 posted on 11/02/2016 7:09:31 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: jjotto
Tom was considered a brilliant journalist and I did read his book in 1984 or 1985. I kind of respected him but have watched him steadily decline over the years.

We Jews have a Hebrew word for this type of Jew, “Yehudon” or little Jew and this is not some term I relish. Others might call him (WWII) a “Kapo”.

Tom does his best to maintain a “balance” but he is too far tilted to the Left and he was bought, lock, stock and barrel by the Clintons and Obamas and it makes me want to upchuck...

62 posted on 11/02/2016 7:10:29 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I am no admirer of Mr. Trump, but Friedman manages to reverse the fundamental character of these two candidates.

Trump is not “an indecent human being.” While his personal life is colorful to say the least, his personal mistakes and misjudgements splashed over the tabloids, he seems to have settled down, and projects a flawed, if basically decent human character.

There are no backdoor/tabloid stories from masses of disgruntled employees about what a horrible boss he was, rather, most of his employees seem to like working for him. He has raised talented kids who seem to earn their keep. He is a braggart, occasionally crude, occasionally full of himself, and has made some scurrilous charges against opponents.

He also seems to understand that the national political process has been corrupted and detached from the general population, and pursues power to fix what he sees as broken.

Mrs. Clinton, is fundamentally “indecent” and her flaws go way beyond “...a weakness for secrecy, occasionally fudges truths, has fawning aides and a husband who lacks discipline when it comes to moneymaking and women.”

Mrs. Clinton’s agenda is first and foremost about the pursuit of both money and power for personal and family benefit. She has no political center, aside from the utility of government largess as a tool to gain money and power. She has latched onto collectivist ideology not from conviction, but from recognition that it empowers government and provides her tools she can use to reward allies and punish enemies.

She is a remarkable combination of arrogance and ignorance. With a faith in her own abilities that is not justified when you look at her record. She habitually blames others for her failures, and treats employees and advisers as servants, dismissing as irrelevant anyone who cannot benefit her directly.

As President, she would enact policies that would cripple our economy, undermine our liberties, and empower her to use government as a club against anyone who opposes her.

Choosing Trump over her is quite possibly the easiest electoral choice I have made since 1984.


63 posted on 11/02/2016 7:10:33 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: Nifster

Having googled it, I guess it’s Scudder....anyway the points the same

It’s been fifty years since I read it (and that statement makes me feel old)


64 posted on 11/02/2016 7:11:44 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: artichokegrower

Freidman?

I'd knock him out (preferably with a baseball bat) before I'd hear him out on his delusional merits of Hillary over Trump.


65 posted on 11/02/2016 7:11:48 AM PDT by onyx (VOTE for TRUMP or DON'T VOTE AT ALL! DONATE MONTHLY or JOIN CLUB 300!)
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To: artichokegrower

What these D-bags have going for them is no illegal alien or H1B import will threaten their jobs.

That’s why they can afford to be D-bags.


66 posted on 11/02/2016 7:13:44 AM PDT by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: dfwgator

LOL! One of these jokers just wrote on FB that because we’re so dumb and anti-rational, we would never listen to reasoned academic intellectuals who advise us to vote for Hillary. I went to his home page and his first post was that he gave the finger to an inanimate object (a Trump sign) and had to fight himself not to run it over. So much for that rational stuff.


67 posted on 11/02/2016 7:16:02 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: artichokegrower

Hey, guy! Your paper’s profit margin tanked.


68 posted on 11/02/2016 7:16:43 AM PDT by Parmy (II don't know how to past the images.)
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To: artichokegrower

Fish wrap is all the NYT is good for.


69 posted on 11/02/2016 7:17:19 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: artichokegrower

I don’t read the New York Times and I don’t work for it like Friedman. I’m just an ignorant savage from the “flyover.” Well, Friedman, it’s like Michael Moore said — this will be the biggest FU in history. That’s an FU to you, too.


70 posted on 11/02/2016 7:18:50 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: artichokegrower
Donald Trump Voters, Just Hear Me Out

I wouldn't waste my time, Friedman.

71 posted on 11/02/2016 7:19:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

I’m an admirer of Mr. Trump. I get a little tired of freepers who do this virtue-signaling stuff such as “While I feel Trump is a bombastic, vulgar pig who loathes women, he’s still a better choice than Hillary Clinton...” Then why bother voting for him?


72 posted on 11/02/2016 7:19:33 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: artichokegrower
The arrogance of this presumptive twit, knows little bounds. I would love to debate him before an audience of his choosing, and see how many of his admirers still admired him after the engagement. But can a man who in effect boasts of his education--such as it is or is not--justify supporting this:

Hillary Clinton

Confused As Well As Corrupt!

In the Presidential Debate, the other night (the 19th of October), Mrs. Clinton explained her approach to job creation. The recital sounded rehearsed & sloganized; but it demonstrated something very different than what she obviously intended. It would be far better described as a path to economic stagnation, than a path to economic progress!

That a woman who has been politically active, her entire adult life, among a people with the most successful history of economic achievement over their first century and a quarter, of any people on earth, under a Constitutional Government designed to protect that people from a bureaucratic pestilence, which has been the bane of most nations; that such a woman has so missed the essential point of the American achievement, is staggering in its implications.

Mrs. Clinton claimed that a Clinton Government would rebuild the "Middle Class." Was she totally unaware that the American Middle Class clearly built itself? That the American Middle Class resulted from naturally energized individuals, aspiring to achieve the good life, who risked everything to first clear a wilderness, work hard, generation to generation, to save & accumulate the attributes of the good life; with the result that by 1913--the year that a graduated income tax first became Constitutional, this Settler built Federation of newly settled States, had already surpassed every one of the great powers of Europe in industrial strength.

To "rebuild" the "Middle Class," Mrs. Clinton vowed to make the most successful Americans--those who had achieved the most--pay increased taxes; she called it "paying their 'fair' share." But it was clearly to be a tax on success--a tax to fund a raft of new programs (a cancer or pestilence of an expanded bureaucracy). She was obviously indifferent to the fact that the biggest impediment to any poor person with ambition, actually launching a small business to improve his status, is an almost incomprehensible explosion in bureaucratic regulations, most of which premised on the same flawed understanding of how people actually advance, which Mrs. Clinton displayed, on the 19th.

Americans used to learn by experience. What were the experience based lessons of what transpired from the drafting of our written Constitution in 1787, until the passage of the income tax amendment in 1913? Are they instructive or not, for what actually works for human advancement?

The Constitution prior to 1913, absolutely interdicted a tax driven war on the accumulation of individual wealth. Article I, Section 9, which Mrs. Clinton should have remembered from Law School, provided that no direct tax on individual Americans could be applied in any way but per-capita. (That is Warren Buffet would pay the same tax--not the same percentage tax--but the same tax as Joe the Plumber. The Founders had no desire to limit individual success. They sought only to encourage it.

Under there experience based philosophy, there were almost certainly not even 1% of the bureaucratic regulations, with which Americans seeking to improve their lot, must face today. In place of today's pursuit of grievances, real or imagined, there was universal admiration for the high achievers! And the growth rate of a people freed to achieve, was the economic phenomenon of human history.

We do not pretend to know whether it was in her indoctrination by Marxist Pied Pipers in her late teens, or pure confusion in whatever she is struggling with today. But Mrs. Clinton is utterly clueless on how a dynamic economy works; as she is utterly unaware of the dynamic, interactive factors, that drive or stagnate any human aspiration or achievement. What is absolutely clear, even if one ignores her lack of a moral compass in her political dealings; the woman is absolutely unqualified to be President of the United States.

This is one more reason why we must win this election for Donald Trump.

William Flax

73 posted on 11/02/2016 7:20:49 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: artichokegrower

Articles like this are why Trump is doing well


74 posted on 11/02/2016 7:22:47 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Rainbow Rising

And Europeans think they’re smarter than us! They are irrational idiots.


75 posted on 11/02/2016 7:22:52 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: artichokegrower

The harder they keep calling me ‘uneducated’ the harder I’m pulling the lever for Trump.


76 posted on 11/02/2016 7:26:30 AM PDT by Fhios
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To: artichokegrower

Author says “ Hillary clinton is a flawed leader”

Yes, she is leading people to Hell on earth and by her examples to others of what to try to get away with, possible eternal Hell.


77 posted on 11/02/2016 7:27:48 AM PDT by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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To: artichokegrower

zat you Rahm?

78 posted on 11/02/2016 7:29:47 AM PDT by Theophilus (The Deprived Depraved, deplorable to the Deplorables.)
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79 posted on 11/02/2016 7:32:09 AM PDT by Theophilus (The Deprived Depraved, deplorable to the Deplorables.)
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To: Gaffer

I disagree. It’s a window into the left’s mindset.

We need to know exactly how disdainfully and condescendingly they look upon huge swaths of their fellow citizens.

It’s important to know and it’s important to document it.


80 posted on 11/02/2016 7:37:08 AM PDT by Lorianne
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