Posted on 10/30/2016 5:07:01 AM PDT by rktman
Probably the clearest point of ideological difference between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton is “climate change.”
One professes to agree with Al Gore that it’s a super-serial man-made problem. The other thinks it’s a joke.
But these are more than just random positions adopted by maverick presidential candidates to please their more extreme voters. They are in fact expressions of one of the fundamental differences between the right and the left, which is reflected time and again in the polls: Conservatives, Libertarians and Republican voters are much, much more likely to think that man-made global warming is a problem than Labour voters, liberal-lefties, greenies and Democrat voters.
In one poll last year, for example, 64 percent of Democrats professed to believe in man-made global warming, as against 22 percent of Republicans.
This is something the left likes to mischaracterise as stemming from the “anti-science” tendencies of right-wing people. But that’s just smear tactics. Conservatives are generally more sceptical of climate change (and related environmental scare stories) for a number of reasons which I discussed in a recent speech in Birmingham at the Conservative Party Conference to the Cornerstone group. You can watch the edited version here
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
They can’t even predict tomorrow’s weather accurately and they want me to believe they can forecast what it will be like in 50 years???
Obviously you haven’t been paying attention to leo de crapio............. ;-) For your enjoyment, he’ll apparently be on natgeo starting tonight jetting and helicoptering around the globe instructing us on how devastating to the erf we have been by jetting and helicoptering around the................. Oh.
The sun drives climate, 100%. The earth is a closed system, for all intents and purposes, except for solar radiation. Period. Greenhouse gases are trailing indicators of solar activity, not leading ones. It isn’t rocket science. Except for progressives, who are mainly animists and pagans and condone human sacrifice (abortion and euthanasia).
“The earth is a closed system, for all intents and purposes, except for solar radiation....”
Please understand that asteroids change the climate drastically when they impact the planet.
Global warming is the perfect storm between left-wing professors, who get the grant money, and Democrats, who want complete control over our lives.
Global cooling/warming/climate change isn’t a joke... it’s outright FRAUD, designed to steal money from the taxpaying public to push policies and regulations designed to steal even more money from them. Plain and simple.
Care to explain why Europe from the time of the fall of the Western Roman Empire to the 1300's was actually warmer than now? Of we had the famous Maunder Minimum from 1645 to 1715, a period of intense cold during the winter?
I am totally surprised that many scientists believe it lock stock and barrel. A scientist responsibility is to be skeptical.
The best way to handle “Climate Change” discussions is to say: The Climate Change issue is ever changing as it’s called Global Warming, name changed to Climate Change when the forecasts of heating up did not pan out, and humans definitely do have an impact on the planet. But we need to look at all of the facts, be honest, handle it all scientifically, stop pseudo science hysteria, and recognize that the USA has survived as a country where we do have rights/freedoms protected because we stand firm in support of the Rule of Law and strict compliance with the Constitution.
I have bad news for all the plants on earth. The Oxygen levels are still over 50-60 times more that the CO2 levels. This has been good news for us respirators like humans, cats, dogs, and all of the animals. But this has meant that for the past thousands of years that the plants have been struggling to find enough CO2 as they pretty much soak up all of the CO2. So if you own a dog then tell them to breath out often so the trees can get enough CO2. There are various fluctuations in CO2 levels going on that are being studied. But the doom-gloom hysteria is not helpful. What is helpful is to look upon what is really happening with the whole ecosystem and population change with integrity. Then let the chips fall where they may.
“The earth is a closed system....” Did you forget that we’re leaking out of the bozone layer?
Hillary is wrong because shes on board with the global scam that siphons American taxpayer money to third world sh## holes, their dictators and the elites pockets and foundations
I first learned about “bulldada environmentalism” at a young age. Living in a dry state, I was not surprised to see posters supporting water conservation. They seemed to make sense.
But then I found the statistics of water *use* in the state. The overwhelming majority, about 1/3rd, of the water used was by the mining industry. Another third by agriculture. Most of the remainder by other businesses. Only a small fraction was used residentially.
So if residences only used a little water, why was the conservation effort directed at them? It made no sense.
“It is necessary, ‘To raise public awareness’ of the need to conserve water”, was the reply. Huh? Why do something that accomplishes nothing?
But within days, a major change happened. The mining industry announced that instead of using fresh water, they were going to recycle the water they used *as a cost saving method*. This would free up a vast amount of water for other uses.
“So I guess the conservation campaign is over”, I said.
“No,” they replied, “It is still vital to ‘raise public awareness’ about the need for water conservation.”
Even at that young age, this made me realize that these environmentalists had a different agenda than the environment.
This came into sharp focus with the fascist pseudo-scientist, butterfly expert, Dr. Paul R. Ehrlich, and his 1970s panic, called “The Population Bomb”. As with Thomas Malthus before him, he imagined a straight line projection of human population growth, resulting in catastrophic starvation of hundreds of millions of people by the 1980s.
The political left just drooled at the thought of a world government forcing population controls on people at gunpoint. Forced sterilizations. Forced abortions. Control over all the world’s resources. A totalitarian regime ‘uber alles.’
Though Ehrlich is almost unique in that every single prediction he made flopped, the left never disavowed him, and still holds him up as a pioneer of environmentalism, giving him new awards when they need an excuse to have a vegetarian chicken-ala-king banquet.
And Ehrlich’s fantasy was almost a template for the current MMGW scheme. That is, they still crave a one world government that micromanages everyone’s lives. The left still slavers at the prospect of slavery.
“Conservatives, Libertarians and Republican voters are much, much more likely to think that man-made global warming is a problem than Labour voters, liberal-lefties, greenies and Democrat voters.”
“In one poll last year, for example, 64 percent of Democrats professed to believe in man-made global warming, as against 22 percent of Republicans.”
Poor writing and or proofreading, the second of these two sentences definitely appears to conflict with the first.
" Conservatives, Libertarians and Republican voters are much, much more likely to think that man-made global warming is a problem than Labour voters, liberal-lefties, greenies and Democrat voters."
My coffee hasn't kicked in yet; that looks bassackward, to me...
Not closed at all. The earth radiates into space at the black body temperature. At the temperature of the atmosphere rises, the earth radiates more. The long term average amount is a function of average weather. For example high clouds radiate much less than low clouds or no clouds. Weather is dictated by geography: placement of continents, effects on ocean currents, mountain ranges, etc. Those all fix the temperature. Changes in greenhouse gases won't affect it much, but neither will solar.
Greenhouse gases are trailing indicators of solar activity, not leading ones.
Used to be that way. But the current rise from 280ppm to 400ppm is not from warming. If it was, we would have needed 12C of deep ocean warming or unusual volcanic activity in last few centuries to make that happen. That is not the case. Also there are really good explanations for the rise in CO2: fossil fuels, deforestation, limestone cooked to make cement.
OK!! Everybody pay attention!
Lesson for today:
1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.
2. The sun is a giant nuclear furnace that controls the climates of all its planets.
3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.
4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.
5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?
Normally, Delingpole is a tighter - and wittier - writer than this.
I feel so small. ;O)
Yes, in the scheme of things, we are very small.
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