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Americans don’t answer surveys so where does poll data come from?
vanity | Oct 25, 2016 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 10/25/2016 8:50:14 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

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To: NEMDF

Same happened with me while giving a pro-Trump response to the caller.
Also got disconnected when giving "wrong" response to green energy pollster.

21 posted on 10/25/2016 9:14:51 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: jmaroneps37

The underlying assumption is that if you have the “right” proportion of white/black/Hispanic and the right proportion of men/women for each, and the right proportions of young/old and married/unmarried, or if you can correct for discrepancies, then you know what is really happening.

The fundamental flaw here is that those who choose to answer are different from those who (1) are too busy to answer, or (2) don’t trust the system enough to answer. In previous years, we knew how big those errors were likely to be and in what direction. This year, the response rate is way down and we have no clue what the unknown errors are.


22 posted on 10/25/2016 9:15:00 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jmaroneps37

Pollsters have turned to Internet-based surveys, more so in 2016 than previous years. These have their own built-in Dem lean as e.g. welfare recipients and other such idle hands tend to busy themselves with them more than most folk. Couple that with absurd voter participation models and the Clinton campaign thumb on the scale and you get a Clinton landslide... in the fictional world of polling. This election is uncharted territory.


23 posted on 10/25/2016 9:18:12 AM PDT by John Robinson (I am a twit @_John_Robinson)
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To: jmaroneps37

It comes from the ever-diminishing pool of individuals who still answer calls from unknown numbers instead of presuming it’s another credit card/loan scam-spam call.


24 posted on 10/25/2016 9:18:54 AM PDT by thoughtomator (This election is a referendum on the Rule of Law)
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To: jmaroneps37
Why not do true random polling. Only ask if registered voter and if voted in last election. If truly random you will get the mix automatically
25 posted on 10/25/2016 9:20:57 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

When I worked in campaigns (local) back in the day we did not ask people if they were registered—we compared their names to registration lists.

People notoriously claim they are registered when they are not, because they want to appear to be “good citizens”.

They lie to friends about it as well.


26 posted on 10/25/2016 9:28:45 AM PDT by cgbg (This space for rent--$250K)
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To: All

If you live in a battle ground state, please volunteer to be a poll watcher in your community. One of the best way’s to determine if there has been fraud, is to participate in the exit polls. If they are more than a few percentage points off that is grounds for contention.

We need to keep an eye on our election, don’t let them steal it from us!

ALSO. Remember to wear RED when you vote as an added visual of who is voting for Trump, every little bit helps.


27 posted on 10/25/2016 9:38:22 AM PDT by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong preemptive strike.)
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To: toast

I have been doing you.gov polls for years. I do not care for some of the questions but answer them anyway.


28 posted on 10/25/2016 9:48:05 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: jmaroneps37

The data comes out of their traitorous a$$.


29 posted on 10/25/2016 10:02:09 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Flick Lives
"Hadn’t thought of that, but the shear volume of junk calls has likely affected the rate at which people will even pickup on a phone call they don’t recognize. That, and of course caller-ID."

I have recently retired, and am "in house" much more than previously. I typically get at least one or two calls per day in spite of being on the do not call list. Those calls are almost always timed to be at or near "lunchtime".

But this morning, for the first time EVER, I got two junk calls before 8AM. I am considering having the answering machine pick up after two rings on ALL incoming calls, and ONLY calling back those who actually leave a name, number, and subject.

30 posted on 10/25/2016 10:05:55 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: jmaroneps37

The MSMLSD people do what they do. Lie.


31 posted on 10/25/2016 10:06:18 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: jmaroneps37
Americans don’t answer surveys so where does poll data come from?

Polls say whatever they want them to. Elections are really hard to steal when you chosen candidate get only 10% of the vote so you have to convince the voter that everyone voted for the loser so when they count the votes it look like the polls were correct.

Come on people the only difference in our government and any other banana Republic is the economy produced enough prosperity that the elites were able to give us a little more than most. I questioned how all the things I observed as a kid after WW II that was happening in Russia and wondered if that could ever happen here. Well wonder no more because the pie is being sliced much thinner because of all the pie eaters we are bringing here.

All the tinfoil hatters have told you for years that our government is only loosely controlled by elected officials we put in office, now maybe you will begin to collect some tinfoil for yourself.

32 posted on 10/25/2016 10:42:04 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: Thickman
Over time, the data became less and less accurate. Garbage in . . .

Your problem is you think it was bad data, it was the data they wanted to produce the result you got. Cloward Piven were real and their goals live.

33 posted on 10/25/2016 10:44:42 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: toast
“If you don’t vote, you can’t complain”. It kind of applies to the polls too.

B$ Push polls just lead to where they want to be. I had a democratic Congressman office call last week and I asked if he were a Trump supporter. The caller protested that the congressman was a democrat so I told her I only vote for Trump supporters.

34 posted on 10/25/2016 10:48:13 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I am considering having the answering machine pick up after two rings on ALL incoming calls, and ONLY calling back those who actually leave a name, number, and subject.

Hook a fax machine to you pone for the next few weeks works every time.

35 posted on 10/25/2016 10:54:08 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: jmaroneps37

How to get more conservatives in polling groups:
* Does anyone in your family do surveys for money or points? Make sure they do the political surveys, too, which are often posed as economic or issues surveys.
* When you are visiting a university, check the bulletin boards for requests for people to participate in surveys or studies. They tend to pull from the local community, disproportionately liberal students and professors and staff.


36 posted on 10/25/2016 10:57:31 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: jmaroneps37
"Americans don’t answer surveys so where does poll data come from?"


37 posted on 10/25/2016 8:20:52 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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