Posted on 10/21/2016 2:33:50 PM PDT by NYer
NEW YORK, October 21, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – Tensions were heightened going into the New York Archdiocese's high-end Al Smith Dinner Thursday night as rival presidential candidates Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton were set to appear side by side just one day after facing off in the heated third and final debate of a particularly polarized campaign.
With Clinton and Trump as special guest speakers, the 71st annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner for Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of New York raised a record $6 million-plus.
The $3,000-per-plate affair brings out high-profile guests during election years as well as joint appearances by opposing presidential nominees.
And typically the candidates roast themselves and one another in light-hearted speeches. But with this year’s event coming on the heals of hacked emails revealing anti-Catholic bias by high-level Clinton campaign staffers, leading New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan to say earlier this week that Clinton owes Catholics an apology, the gloves were off between both the candidates. Some in the audience jeered Trump for calling Clinton out on that and other scandals.
Trump was the first speaker and the mood was light. He received laughs with his jabs at Clinton, until he brought up corruption, yielding unprecedented boos and heckling between that and his mention of the WikiLeaks email scandal.
Trump had joked that Clinton was so corrupt she’d been removed from the Watergate Commission. He also teased about the WikiLeaks email revelation indicating Clinton told a private, paid speech audience that “you need both a public and a private (policy) position,” before then jesting that Clinton was sitting there in public pretending not to hate Catholics.
The WikiLeaks email revelations have also included Clinton’s campaign Chairman John Podesta saying Clinton had begun to hate everyday Americans by the time she announced she was running for president.
Some in the crowd also heckled Trump’s joking references to the WikiLeaks revelation of Democrat National Committee Chair Donna Brazile having received a debate question for Clinton in advance of CNN Democratic primary town hall for Clinton earlier this year, and Clinton’s testifying numerous times that she couldn’t remember facts about which she was being questioned by the FBI and in other investigations.
The humor in the dinner speeches usually wraps into a more serious conclusion, at which time Trump told the crowd, “We can also agree on the need to stand up to anti-Catholic bias, to defend religious liberty, and to create a culture that celebrates life,” to polite applause from some, including Cardinal Dolan.
Clinton took the podium after him and made her own jabs at Trump, including his refusal to agree not to contest the election. She also pegged him on an alleged alliance with Russia, objectification of women, and his suggestion Clinton should be drug tested before the last debate. Clinton’s jokes were better received than Trump's.
Clinton’s endeavor to seriously address anti-Catholic prejudice eschewed the WikiLeaks scandal and instead reached back to anecdotes from Smith’s 1928 run for the presidency, and her appeal to the Catholicism of the crowd involved invoking Pope Francis.
“Now I’m not Catholic, I’m a Methodist,” Clinton said, “but one of the things that we share is the belief that in order to achieve salvation we need both faith and good works.”
“And you certainly don’t need to be Catholic to be inspired by the humility and the heart of the Holy Father Pope Francis, or to embrace his message,” she said to a warm response. “His message about rejecting a mindset of hostility, his calls to reduce inequality, his warnings about climate change.”
And in a shot at Trump during the serious part of her talk, using the Holy Father’s rebuke of Trump’s stance on illegal immigration, Clinton threw in, “his appeal that we build bridges, not walls.”
She went on to remind the audience of her running mate. “Tim is Catholic and went to Jesuit schools,” she said, adding that the two had been talking about the Jesuit philosophy of Magis, which refers to doing more for Christ, thus doing more for others.
“Well, we need to get better at finding ways to disagree on matters of policy,” the fervent abortion advocate said, continuing on after Trump, “while agreeing on questions of decency and civility.”
Clinton had just the night before at the debate adamantly affirmed her support for gay “marriage” and abortion, even late in pregnancy, including defense of the partial-birth procedure, while Trump reiterated his pledge to nominate pro-life Supreme Court judges.
Trump had also taken Clinton to task early in the debate over her support for late-term abortion, making the strongest and most thorough statement against the procedure in a presidential debate.
“Well, I think it’s terrible," he said. "If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb, just prior to the birth of the baby.”
“Now, you can say that that’s OK, and Hillary can say that that’s OK,” he continued, “but it’s not OK with me because based on what she’s saying and based on where she's going and where she's been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month on the final day, and that’s not acceptable."
The Al Smith Catholic Charities dinner has been the source of controversy for years. Catholics and pro-life leaders see that the platform provided pro-abortion and gay “marriage” politicians at the Catholic event, exacerbated by the photo opportunity alongside Church leaders, results in scandal created by the erroneous impression the Church accepts these two grave evils.
The controversy began to escalate in 2008 when then-Illinois Senator Barack Obama appeared at the dinner with Arizona Senator and GOP candidate John McCain, given Obama’s record of ardent abortion support, already documented by his votes against the Illinois version of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in 2001, 2002, and 2003.
The controversy peaked four years later in 2012 when Obama appeared alongside GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, with Obama’s imposition of the HHS Contraception Mandate forcing Catholics and other Christians to subsidize birth control, and his avid support for gay “marriage” added in.
Some have called for an end to the candidate appearance at the dinner.
Cardinal Dolan is the president of the Board of Directors of the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation and told “Fox & Friends” several weeks ago that the annual fundraiser is intended to bring together politicians in "a real climate of amity."
Ahead of Al Smith Dinner, Cardinal Dolan says Hillary owes Catholics an apology
I still do not understand how every Catholic in the room didn’t stand up and turn their backs to her.
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IMO, because they are partakers of the “power” of the church, not partakers of the power of the “Holy Spirit” of the church.
>I wish he had have said it this way, the way it really is. Horrifying and atrocious<
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Most attendees would’ve lost their appetite and the party would have been over immediately.
Better money shot. Look to the left as if you can’t
Maria
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Maria
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And who was the woman in red with her loooooow dress showing off her t*ts?
Maria Bartiromo
Maria Bartiromo responds to her followers on her #AlSmithDinner dress: ‘They’re called boobs’
http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2016/10/21/maria-bartiromo-responds-to-her-followers-on-her-alsmithdinner-dress-theyre-called-boobs/
That picture should be in the Bible.
Yeah, I see him that old fart. Hank’s been in this country since he was ten years old but he can still sound like a Cherman sausage maker ven he vants.
And there’s Bloomberg right up front, looking like he inhaled a fly.
Donald broke the bat over them!
“Mr. Trump! What is best in life?”
“To crush your enemies — See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!”
Yeah baby!
That's not what the Bible says. "What saith the scripture? Abraham believed God and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works." [Romans 4:3-6.]
And this isn't the only place in the Bible that makes it clear that salvation is by grace through faith. The are so many it is difficult to pick just a few:
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that is not of yourselves. It is a gift, not of works, lest any one should boast." [Ephesian 2:8,9]
Salvation, then good works. "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus (i.e. saved) unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."
We must be saved. We should do good works. "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified." [Galatians 2:16]
Conclusion
Hillary isn't saved. She's still trusting in her own works to save her and is hellbound.
A Hillary supporter on another site claimed trump was booed throughout his speech. He’s either a RAT liar or can’t tell boos from cheers. I suspect both.
Cardinal, you sat beside Hillary. Just exactly what did you think might happen?
Yes, she is hot.
Why would a catholic sit next to one of the biggest abortion supporters and financiers in the world? Oh yeah. Because liberal uber-alles.
Msria Bartiromo looked REALLY GOOD! :-)
Cut out the podium, wouldn’t spit on a single one of them if they were on fire....
There were a lot of boos. The place was loaded with `rats and nevertrumpers of all stripes. Trump walked into another lions’ den.
Keep in mind that the Mother Church condones the actions of abortionist enablers like Pelosi and Biden, allowing them communion and audience when it suits their purposes, as it tolerates the Religion of Peace in Rome.
And there were some even here yesterday evening, fretting and clucking, “Oh dear, oh me, oh my sainted hat!”
Yeah, there was booing. Trump said Wednesday he would appoint pro-life Supreme Court justices and he’s got the baby-killers on their heels.
We do good works because we are saved.
She is clearly not saved and does no good works.
How can she get up there and say those things after defending partial birth abortion 24 hours earlier?
She is soulless.
At least Trump’s comments were funny - Hillary’s fell flat time and again - she can’t be entertaining and engaging even with a script in front of her.....
“Now, you can say that that’s OK, and Hillary can say that that’s OK,” he continued, “but it’s not OK with me because based on what she’s saying and based on where she's going and where she's been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month on the final day, and that’s not acceptable."
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