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To: Girlene
The question is, especially for Donald Trump's performance, what does "win" mean?

If the question is, did he rally the base? Yes, he won.

If the question is, did he do better than the first debate? Yes, he won.

If the question is, did he modeled himself after Gov. Pence debating technique, yes and no. I agree, in the first half hour of the debate he moderated his voice and refrained from interrupting at his usual pace. But he abandoned the Mike Pence Technique and reverted to the interruptions (which seem to be the most offputting debate losing gaffe of all to the public) and personal attacks which, as I said, appealed to the base but not to the women in the audience.

If the question is, did he to overcome his deficit in the polls, did he do enough to run the table of battleground states which he simply must do to get to 270? No, he did not win.

The whole question for Donald Trump has been whether he is temperamentally fit for office. The bulk of the public had been ready to fire Hillary Clinton because they know what she is but they did not know what Donald Trump was. All he had to do in these debates was appear presidential, to exhibit the kind of gravitas that we expect in the leader of the free world, to reassure women that he is a responsible adult. If he had done this, he would easily beat Hillary Clinton.

In the debates then, Trump did not need to win all the points, he needed only make reasonable arguments in a modulated tone and appear presidential to become the next president.

I ask for your verdict on that issue, we know what the polls tell us the public's verdict is as shaped by the first two debates and by the campaign as well as Hillary's air blitz of negative campaign ads.


124 posted on 10/19/2016 10:11:44 PM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack!Â… Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
If the question is, did he to overcome his deficit in the polls...

Myself, I'm not one to trust the polls one way or the other.

But since you seem to believe the polls, why are you ignoring the latest IBD and Rasmussen polls (and a couple others) that have Trump tied or ahead?

128 posted on 10/19/2016 10:24:00 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: nathanbedford
If the question is, did he to overcome his deficit in the polls, did he do enough to run the table of battleground states which he simply must do to get to 270? No, he did not win.

I do not know if he overcame his "deficit". I DO believe he will pick up more voters in key demographics after his performance tonight.

In the debates then, Trump did not need to win all the points, he needed only make reasonable arguments in a modulated tone and appear presidential to become the next president.

I ask for your verdict on that issue.....


I believe Trump did all those things. Was it enough to become the next president? We will find out on November 8.

I have probably been more critical than most on FR on his performance in the first two debates. He didn't do horrible in them, but I worried if he appealed to enough new voters. Tonight, he did very well. His base will be happy, but more importantly, he picked up voters (IMO, of course). Will it be enough?....I do not know. I pray so.

Regardless of who we think "won" the debate.....vote for Trump. The alternative is Hillary.
132 posted on 10/19/2016 10:30:57 PM PDT by Girlene
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