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LCS Freedom CO fired after engine damages
Navy Times ^ | October 14, 2016 | Sam Fellman

Posted on 10/17/2016 7:00:13 AM PDT by RitchieAprile

The head of the surface Navy on Thursday fired the commanding officer of a littoral combat ship that damaged one of its main propulsion diesel engines in July.

Vice Adm. Tom Rowden cashiered the CO of Crew 106 of LCS Freedom, Cmdr. Michael Wohnhaas, “due to loss of confidence in his ability to effectively lead and carry out his assigned duties,” Naval Surface Force Pacific said in a Friday release announcing the removal.

“The loss of confidence followed an investigation into the facts and circumstances surrounding damage to the ship's number 2 main propulsion diesel engine (#2 MPDE) that occurred in the operation areas off the coast of southern California on July 11,” the SURFPAC release said. “No final decision has been made yet on the options for follow-on repairs to Freedom related to the July 11 engineering casualty.”

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Another loss of command..
1 posted on 10/17/2016 7:00:14 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile

They make it sound like he put sand and sugar in the engine.

Strange.


2 posted on 10/17/2016 7:04:48 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

Water in the bio-diesel?


3 posted on 10/17/2016 7:08:46 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: RitchieAprile
The design is problematic, the engineers are not properly trained, and the admiral blames the CO.


4 posted on 10/17/2016 7:08:58 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rjsimmon

And people wonder why good men never consider joining a group like the military.


5 posted on 10/17/2016 7:11:25 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rjsimmon

It sucks to be captain when something goes wrong, even if it wasn’t your fault, you are responsible....................


6 posted on 10/17/2016 7:13:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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To: ConservativeMind

The CO of the ship is responsible for anything that happens, regardless of who else was involved. This is why Captains lose their command if the boat runs aground, even if they weren’t on the bridge at the time. In this case, the responsibility for ensuring the engineers were properly trained falls ultimately to the ship’s commanding officer; either he signed off on readiness reports that claimed the crew was trained, or he didn’t issue the appropriate orders to effect such a process. About the only time the Navy possibly wouldn’t remove the CO is if they can conclusively determine that everything was done correctly, and that something failed anyway, and even then, I’d guess it depends on the situation.


7 posted on 10/17/2016 7:15:10 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: ConservativeMind

What a FUBAR project. 4 month rotations on board are barely enough for good qualifications. They are already relieving commanders for crew errors in the engine room.

An LCS aint no floating tin can. Sea water in the lube oil will destroy a hi-tech engines faster than last generation. Tighter tolerances mean less room for mechanical or human error.


8 posted on 10/17/2016 7:15:52 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: ConservativeMind

They are taking the blame for BAD engineering...............

The firings will continue until morale improves...............


9 posted on 10/17/2016 7:16:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Maybe. But naval officers are in a rare environment where they have 100% authority and are therefore 100% responsible and accountable.

Think about how stuff goes to hell and lower enlisted and NCOs take the brunt of the damage and punishment. Think about how bad that is for morale.

A certain level of respect is accorded when the crew knows that the CO’s head will roll.


10 posted on 10/17/2016 7:18:25 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: RitchieAprile

Forgot to check the oil?


11 posted on 10/17/2016 7:18:56 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs......same thing.)
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To: RitchieAprile

Spinning donuts is never a good idea, even in water.

It looks cool until someone blows an engine.


12 posted on 10/17/2016 7:18:58 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: RitchieAprile

LCS the Houthis dream of it


13 posted on 10/17/2016 7:22:59 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I had a VW sedan, bummer: I had to add oil about every time I gassed up.
But except for cleaning the filter, didn’t have to change the oil. Cool.


14 posted on 10/17/2016 7:23:44 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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Sounds like an abused engine or the valve guides were shot. Should have run Castrol 20W50?


15 posted on 10/17/2016 7:28:44 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs......same thing.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I would guess one of 3 things was involved in the decision:

1) A decision not do scheduled maintenance due to a scheduling conflict or other CO priority

2) An attempt to cover up in the logs, etc

3) Conducting operations outside the limits of standard procedure or failure to ensure personnel were appropriately trained and/or supervised by those trained.


16 posted on 10/17/2016 7:30:23 AM PDT by reed13k (r)
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To: tumblindice
Had a Ford Ranger that burned a quart of oil every tank and a half. Car had an extended warranty and the Ford dealer considered that normal oil consumption.

Dealer made me do an oil consumption test where they checked the oil consumption each week. I had to drain a quart of oil before every Dealer check to increase the oil consumption in order for them to repair the rings and cyllinders.

17 posted on 10/17/2016 7:40:05 AM PDT by caltaxed
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Worn rings I’m guessing. I ran the wheels off that Bug.
Rowed across the Rockies, back and forth across the country.


18 posted on 10/17/2016 7:48:53 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

One time I was on I-70 Kansas turnpike and it was very windy. I had it topped out at about 80+ mph.
Crested a rise and the wind pushed me into the other lane—skittered like a water skate.


19 posted on 10/17/2016 7:52:54 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: caltaxed

I thought about dropping the engine, honing the pistons and new rings, but an uninvited foreign guest ran a stop sign at LAX and boogered the front end.
So had to let go for $1500. Paid about 2K nine years earlier.


20 posted on 10/17/2016 7:56:51 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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