And an Anthony Newley Musical (Stop The World I Want To get Off!)
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Posted on 10/13/2016 9:40:32 PM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr.
Lord stop this bus, I want to get off.....
“I believe there is general agreement that officers are permitted to carry firearms, the exception being in front of a jury,” Circuit Judge Scott Horne said. “The concern has been expressed regarding an intimidating atmosphere and that may be the most common circumstance in which weapons may not be permitted. For many years, they had been denied entirely.”
Sounds like Wisconsin Judiciary have their collective head’s up their a$$es! But then it is Wisconsin, home of the three GOPe a$$holes, Walker, Ryan and Rancid Penis! As for “judge” Gonzalez, it appears that the “wetbacks” have made it all the way to this country’s northern border, or just shy of it
Welcome to the world the rest of us live in, officers.
Sorry don’t have a problem with this - they don’t let me carry why should she allow them to? Besides they aren’t responsible for the safety of the court - the Bailiff and his deputies are...typically from the county sheriffs office.
A police officer has no business trying to make his testimony more credible than any other citizen by wearing a uniform and a gun at a trial.
The entire practice makes a mockery of the concept of a fair and impartial trial.
I agree about stopping the bus. . . but I want to toss the judge off.
My experience:
When I testified I was just excused for a little while. The minute I was excused I was back on duty. I was in uniform in court because I came from being on duty and returned immediately to being on duty.
I have no reason to believe these days that a jury gives any more credence to an LEO than to anyone else.
The entire premise that an officer is always telling the truth, over any citizen, is ridiculous. These are officers that often lie in the field to charge people with crimes. It is a mockery, and the whole criminal justice system is a mockery of true justice.
We’re in trouble as a culture if the sight of a holstered handgun will render a juryman incapable,of objective thought.
You are correct sir. For 15 year, our district court has required civilian dress for officers under subpoena for proceedings. The consensus arose that it could be determined prejudicial for either side’s purposes. I agree. And I am much more comfortable not being recognised as a threat to any bad guy who might want to unlaod into a prosecutor or judge. Our court officers are unarmed....except for ranking supervisors, lieutenant and above. That means the courtrooms are often gun free zones...except for police disguised in suits. It’s win-win.
Sworn officers receive judicial notice of their veracity. The price is that the officer, if ever caught lying, receives judicial notice that he may never bring a case before the court again.....desk job, at best; prosecuted, at worst.
‘...... the whole criminal justice system is a mockery of true justice.’
I’ve been involved in the process for 30 years, and seen bad, good, frustrating and superb adjudication. Time and observation informs me that it works pretty darn well most of the time....the best obtainable among human participants....and could be very much worse.
If a police officer wearing a gun is intimidating to a jury, then what is a psycho criminal/suspect who is on trial, a saint?
Stupid thinking. I was in court once where I had a person staying with a neighbor arrested for assaulting and injuring me.
When the wackjob (drug conviction) came into the court (run by the worst magistrate I’ve ever seen, he was wearing a trench coat. Could have hidden a tank under it and he wasn’t checked for weapons.
I warned one of the court deputies about this guy and he positioned himself so that he could take him down if he attacked me or my family.
Since my hand was crippled at the time, I could hardly defend myself.
Some judges just are liberal pricks and made the victim and the witness a defenseless target for some nut or his friends in the gallery.
Fortunately our local court has a good body check before you can even get into the courthouse.
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I don’t have a problem with anyone on the witness stand being asked not to bear arms during their testimony...
I don’t like being disarmed every time I have to go into the courthouse either. I have a ccw on top of it.
Cops don’t like being treated like the little people.
I,agree. The whole trusted witness concept is inherently unjust when trying to determine what actually occurred. Cops do not want to go to jail just as much or more as criminals do.
I have seen a lot,of officers in courtmin plainclothes and doing a very good job of testifying and presenting their record of events, very well. They can impress the jury very well without a duty uniform.
"Little people" is an archaic term. Current usage is "deplorable." The superlative is "irredeemably deplorable."
If one person has to rot in jail for a crime they didn’t commit for years and years, then it can’t work.
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