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Clinton Won Debate; Up In Florida, Down In Ohio, On Plus Side Of Close Races In,.. (trunc)
Quinnipiac Polls ^ | 10/03/2016 | Quinnipiac Polls

Posted on 10/03/2016 12:03:45 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: edie1960

Right now the election is about Trump and not Hillary. If that stands, she wins by default. It needs to go back to being about her. Trump let the second half of that debate go sideways and defensive in nature. He needs to stay on offense. It’s what he does best.


41 posted on 10/03/2016 12:40:36 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: God luvs America
Romney lost by ~74k votes in FL, but 2016 ≠ 2012 in any way shape or form.
42 posted on 10/03/2016 12:41:56 PM PDT by Voluntaryist
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To: catnipman

catnipman, wow you are a friendly soul.

May I refer you to this post: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3474072/posts where I say in my conclusion that it is going to be a “very tight race”.

Take care dude.


43 posted on 10/03/2016 12:42:50 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
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To: All

Polls are usually right. Think back to 2012. Not to the one or two you focused on. To the average of all of them.

Here’s what it looked like just before the election:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

My recall is Dems turned out 6% more than GOP which was underestimated by pollsters.

It is unlikely that 6% will be matched without blacks being energized — but the woman vote pickup may offset some of that — though not all.

The stuff about lower GOP support for Trump than Dem support for Clinton is probably moderate GOP women voting gender rather than party.

The pollsters’ turnout model will lean on 2012 and that’s unlikely to prove accurate, so add 2% to Trump results. The new voter stuff . . . non degreed men . . . well, maybe.

But there is the old saying — you show me a candidate depending on new voters, and I’ll show you a loser.


44 posted on 10/03/2016 12:44:49 PM PDT by Owen
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Maurice Carroll, Director of Quinnipiac is a BIG time liberal Democrat.


45 posted on 10/03/2016 12:45:12 PM PDT by ZULU (Where the HELL ARE PAUL RYAN AND MITCH MCCONNELL ?????)
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To: ilgipper

You’re placing too much emphasis on the mechanics of the debate. This is a change election and everyone knows Hillary represents the same old Obama politics.

Trump represents stopping illegal immigration, promoting fair trade, keeping jobs in America, strong defense, law and order, etc.

This is the year of the outsider who will destroy the MSM narrative.


46 posted on 10/03/2016 12:50:00 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: ilgipper

I hope some coaching from Brexit leader Nigel Farage will focus Trump on what he needs to do Sunday night!!!


47 posted on 10/03/2016 12:54:56 PM PDT by edie1960
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To: Mjreagan

Sad but true!!!
Praying for a miracle, Trump’s election victory on November 8!!!


48 posted on 10/03/2016 12:58:20 PM PDT by edie1960
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To: edie1960

Same!


49 posted on 10/03/2016 1:00:41 PM PDT by Mjreagan
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To: SpeedyInTexas

“Before debates I predicted the pollsters would go to huge Dem oversamples after to give Hillary a win and that is EXACTLY what happened.”

“ALL of the movement you are seeing to Clinton post-debate in polls can be attributed to enlarging the Democrat sample. Every damned bit.’

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

“This week in 2012, Obama was up 3.6 in RAND Poll. This same week in the same poll Trump is up by 4.5”

https://twitter.com/RichBarnett/status/783006423122907136

Your own post:

UPI/CVoter poll: Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton by 2.5 points

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3476214/posts


50 posted on 10/03/2016 1:01:10 PM PDT by ctpsb
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To: LS

I’ve seen more real estate for sale signs than H! signs ............


51 posted on 10/03/2016 1:13:21 PM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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To: Voluntaryist

There seems to be something wrong with their math.
Do the Crosttabs and Demos.

48% Men
52% Women

Split
49/33 Men
38/53 Women

Trump = 48 * .49 + 52 * .38 = 23 + 20 = 43
‘illary = 48 * .33 + 52 * .53 = 16 + 28 = 44

Don’t see it unless I am making a stupid math error.


52 posted on 10/03/2016 1:30:06 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Owen

6% sounds about right for a fraud margin. I am thinking at lease 5% fraud.


53 posted on 10/03/2016 1:30:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Demos https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/ps/sfl10032016_demos_S27kmrd.pdf


54 posted on 10/03/2016 1:31:16 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: longtermmemmory

Cross tabs: https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/ps/sfl10032016_crosstabs_S27kmrd.pdf


55 posted on 10/03/2016 1:31:33 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: edie1960

Its incomprehensible to you because you believe in laws, morality, and principles. Unfortunately, your values are not universally shared in this country.


56 posted on 10/03/2016 1:39:45 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Trump = 48 * .49 + 52 * .38 = 23 + 20 = 43
‘illary = 48 * .33 + 52 * .53 = 16 + 28 = 44

WOW!! You're right, though I'd round up 48 * .49 to 24, which would make them tied!
What the **** is going on with these polls!?!?!?!
57 posted on 10/03/2016 1:40:01 PM PDT by Voluntaryist
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Or no, your brain did the exact same thing mine did originally. You swapped 33 and 38. Trump got 33 women, hillary got 38 men.


58 posted on 10/03/2016 1:42:09 PM PDT by Voluntaryist
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Internals. OH D+2, FL D+3, NC D+5, PA D+7


59 posted on 10/03/2016 1:46:00 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
No, Hillary can't even fill a Black church to hear her.

She is losing all of those States.

60 posted on 10/03/2016 1:46:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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