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Kaine predicts Catholic church will change its teaching on gay marriage
WA POST ^ | 9/10/16 | John Wagner

Posted on 09/11/2016 5:07:56 AM PDT by madprof98

Democratic vice-presidential nominee Tim Kaine, a practicing Catholic, on Saturday described his evolution on same-sex marriage and predicted that his church would change its views as well.

“My full, complete, unconditional support for marriage equality is at odds with the current doctrine of the church that I still attend,” Kaine said at a dinner celebrating gay rights. “But I think that’s going to change, too.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cino; homosexualagenda; religiousleft; timkaine
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1 posted on 09/11/2016 5:07:56 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98
He's probably correct, under this usurper false pope.


2 posted on 09/11/2016 5:09:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: madprof98

Those churches will cease to be holy places if they submit to evil. I thought the church would not bow to Satan if they know God has their backs...


3 posted on 09/11/2016 5:13:12 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Travis McGee

That man is no Vicar of Christ. He is a Marxist fraud installed to lead people to ruin.


4 posted on 09/11/2016 5:13:24 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Travis McGee

This is a typical reaction of a liberal who is Catholic. Bit by bit, their Christian faith is eroded. Probably true of Protestants also.

It is their way of justifying their evolution into secularism - which is really their choice of the worldly values over those of Jesus Christ.


5 posted on 09/11/2016 5:15:57 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Travis McGee

This is a typical reaction of a liberal who is Catholic. Bit by bit, their Christian faith is eroded. Probably true of Protestants also.

It is their way of justifying their evolution into secularism - which is really their choice of the worldly values over those of Jesus Christ.


6 posted on 09/11/2016 5:15:57 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: madprof98

I am not a Catholic but I found this really funny. What an idiot


7 posted on 09/11/2016 5:17:52 AM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: Gumdrop

Well said.


8 posted on 09/11/2016 5:26:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: madprof98

Bergoglio Needs to go.

Where is Archbishop Gilday now that we need him.


9 posted on 09/11/2016 5:27:20 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Gumdrop

>>Probably true of Protestants also.

It is. I believe that one of the names of Satan is “Relevance” because when a church starts changing to be “relevant”, it opens the doors to the devil.

I’ve seen a denomination that is founded on the idea of striving for personal holiness adopt the idea that you have to de-emphasize personal holiness to be able to seek social justice.

I’ve seen a denomination that comes from the Puritans throw away their Confession and just add it to a bunch of “guidelines” documents because the Westminster Confession is too black and white for a gray world.


10 posted on 09/11/2016 5:27:48 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: madprof98
“My full, complete, unconditional support for marriage equality is at odds with the current doctrine of the church that I still attend,” Kaine said at a dinner celebrating gay rights. “But I think that’s going to change, too.”

What, is he gonna become an Episcopalian?

11 posted on 09/11/2016 5:28:00 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: madprof98; rodguy911; All

Hillarys running mate into Liberation theology?Seems he was.

http://townhall.com/columnists/kenblackwell/2016/09/11/tim-kaines-dangerous-liaisons-n2216115

“Liberation Theology’s recent second wind has been achieved by disavowing its Marxist roots. Francis’ doctrinal chief Cardinal Mueller is seen as friendly, but stated: “true liberation theology is opposed to Marxism.”

That wasn’t the case in the 1980s. Then, Kaine embraced not some reconstituted, post-Marxist version, but the hardcore, Cold War variety – an avowed Marxist ideology inimical to the institutional Catholic Church and to the United States.

Just how hardcore were his Jesuit teachers? Well, around the time Kaine was there, Jesuits were arrested for gunrunning, and, the next year, the Honduran government banned any more American Jesuits from coming to that country because of their left-wing activism.6 They also expelled one American-born Jesuit, who also had to leave that religious community because he was too radical even for them. That priest was Father Jim Carney, and he was the one the New York Times us tells Kaine sought out across the border in Soviet-supported Nicaragua, taking a bus and then walking several miles to meet him.

Carney was a full-blown revolutionary. The Times says his death was “murky” and hardened Kaine’s distrust of American involvement in the region.

What isn’t murky is what led to his death. In 1983, Carney was part of a 96-man unit that invaded Honduras to bring the Nicaraguan’s Communist revolution there too. The insurgents were Cuban and Nicaraguan trained and led by Jose Reyes Mata, Cuban-educated, and Honduras’ top Marxist.7 Reyes Mata had previously served with Che Guevara in Bolivia.

After a firefight with Honduran troops, Reyes Mata was captured and killed. Carney was reported dead too. Some think he was captured and killed too. Kaine worried about American complicity in an extrajudicial killing, but he didn’t seem bothered by Carney’s participation in a Communist-sponsored insurgency and invasion of Honduras.

The Nicaraguan Sandinistas had been founded by KGB operative Carlos Fonseca.8 Eastern Bloc archives also show they were supported massively by the Cubans, Soviets and East Germans – with guns, ammunition, money, prison building, etc. They were brutal too, with more political prisoners than any other country in the region but Cuba. Some prisoners were executed by being hacked to death, or by being flayed alive. Others had family members sexually assaulted in front of them. By every measure, the atrocities the Sandinistas committed were far worse than the dictatorship they had replaced.9

What blocked them from total victory was the Reagan administration and the Catholic Church.

Why Kaine felt the need to go Nicaragua, and meet a friend of violent revolutionaries is murky.

But his relationship with Carney’s successor, Father Melo, continues in the open. Melo, incidentally, wants to redistribute land throughout Latin America by 2021.

Did Kaine’s mentors teach him the art of Soviet disinformation – call yourself the very thing you seek to undermine and try to destroy it from within?

If that is what he’s doing, does it apply just to his faith, or to his country as well?

In Virginia he ran a moderate and ruled as a liberal.10 Today he runs as a “Pope Francis” Catholic but on abortion and marriage, Kaine opposes Francis.

On the conscience rights of groups like the Little Sisters of the Poor, Kaine sided with Obama. Francis sided with the Little Sisters, whom he visited in Washington a year ago to publicly show his support.

As in the 1980s, Kaine’s “Catholicism” serves neither his Church nor his country, but a Leftist political agenda that has proven to be on the wrong side of the Church, on the wrong side of history, and against the interests of freedom and the United States.”

(h/t rodguy911)


12 posted on 09/11/2016 5:29:14 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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Anyone wondering why hillary chose Kaine to be her running mate should wonder no more. He’s a sleeper commie.Hillary’s running mate is especially important since many think her health is far worse than many know.


13 posted on 09/11/2016 5:35:13 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: madprof98

Progressives reject the notion of binding, immutable, universal truth. They are all secular relativists. . .and so they can lie without the burden of a guilty conscience. They even profess their undying faith in God as they attempt to have God purged from the universe. Am I now engaged in hate speech?. . yes, I truly hate them (sorry Jesus. . .still working on that loving the enemy thing).


14 posted on 09/11/2016 5:35:31 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: Gumdrop

They also can`t wait for Francis to say God is okay with abortion....As long as you have a gooood reason...Liberals are already gearing up for women deacons=women priests...


15 posted on 09/11/2016 5:44:37 AM PDT by Hambone 1934
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To: dforest

He’s an a-hole.


16 posted on 09/11/2016 5:47:03 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: madprof98

Now that the NWO has installed their fake Pope, TIMMAY! is probably right.


17 posted on 09/11/2016 5:55:12 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Bryanw92
It is. I believe that one of the names of Satan is “Relevance” because when a church starts changing to be “relevant”, it opens the doors to the devil.

Yes, and another of Satan's names must be 'Tolerance' (which now means 'unconditional acceptance').

18 posted on 09/11/2016 5:58:14 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: madprof98

Kaine is right. Communion for fornicators and adulterers (divorced and remarried) lets wide open the door for all other sexual sins. I always thought that’s why the homosexual Bishops supported it.


19 posted on 09/11/2016 6:08:30 AM PDT by Varda
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Memo to Kain:

Fudge packing will never be sacred to the Catholic church.

If they do, it’s over. The lie you espouse wins. The church is gone.


20 posted on 09/11/2016 6:11:07 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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