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To: ETL

You ever serve?


82 posted on 09/09/2016 9:40:18 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: DesertRhino

No, I never did. Was a tad too young for Vietnam. And was going to college in the 80s. But then John Fonda Kerry served in the military. As did Charlie “The Red” Rangel, Obama’s Jeremiah ‘G-D America’ Wright, Harry ‘The Body’ Reid, and many others of the sort. In other words, serving doesn’t always mean one is a patriot.

Anyway, you’re a longtime Putin apologist and defender. So let me ask you: are you aware that Russia armed and advised Saddam Hussein in the GW? That they were videoed sneaking ‘something’, possibly WMDs, out of Iraq and into Syria just prior to the war? That they backed Iran who helped kill our soldiers in Iraq? That they continue to this day arming and/or supporting leftist regimes throughout the world, such as Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Bolivia, North Korea and the ChiComs? Strange, don’t you think, for a regime who now claims to detest communism, as well as be our ‘friends’.
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“The Soviet Union was critical of Saddam Hussein’s 2 August 1990 invasion and occupation of Kuwait, and supported a United Nations resolution authorizing the use of military force, if necessary, to enforce an arms embargo against Iraq. But the Soviet Union’s military support for Hussein also drew substantial criticism from the United States and other Western countries. In Washington, D.C., the Heritage Foundation foreign policy experts Jay P. Kosminsky and Michael Johns wrote on 30 August 1990 that, “While condemning the Iraqi invasion [of Kuwait], Gorbachev continues to assist Saddam militarily.

By Moscow’s own admission, in a 22 August [1990] official press conference with Red Army Colonel Valentin Ogurtsov, 193 Soviet military advisors still are training and assisting Iraq’s one million-man armed forces. Privately, Pentagon sources say that between 3,000 and 4,000 Soviet military advisors may be in Iraq.”[8]”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq%E2%80%93Russia_relations
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“On 14 September 2005, Vladimir Putin met with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani. Mr Talabani called on Russia to assist Iraq and he maintained the strong ties that existed between Russia and Iraq since the Soviet Union.[12]

Former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for International Technology Security John A. Shaw who was responsible for tracking Saddam Hussein’s weapons programs before and after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, stated in October 2004,[13] March 2005,[14] and again in February 2006[15] that it was the Russians who helped Saddam Hussein to “clean up” his weapons of mass destruction stockpiles “to prevent the United States from discovering them.” [16]

In particular, on 18 February 2006, Shaw told a conference at The Intelligence Summit in Alexandria, Virginia, that “The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went” to Syria and the Beqaa Valley in Lebanon, Kenneth R. Timmerman reported[15] 19 February 2006, in NewsMax.

“They were moved by Russian Spetsnaz (special forces) units out of uniform, that were specifically sent to Iraq to move the weaponry and eradicate any evidence of its existence,” Shaw said.

After accusing Russian GRU of helping Saddam to remove his WMD, Shaw was asked to resign for “exceeding his authority” in disclosing the information, a charge he called “specious.”

Shaw was forced out of office when his position was eliminated on 10 December 2004.[17][18]

Shaw stated that he went public with his comments regarding Russia moving Iraq’s WMD when he did to help George W. Bush who he felt was being “crucified” by the revelations that over 350 tons of explosives had gone missing in Iraq as a result of the U.S. invasion.[19]

He said “If I had not had the openly hostile environment in [Pentagon public affairs], I would have moved the story differently.

Getting the truth out instantly was more important than process.” American Neoconservative commentators have also accused Russia of supplying weapons to the Iraqi insurgents.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq%E2%80%93Russia_relations


85 posted on 09/10/2016 12:59:52 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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