Posted on 08/31/2016 1:17:01 PM PDT by tcg
With the Presidential election in the United States upon us the allegations of "single issue politics" are again being leveled against anyone who condemns procured, legal abortion as immoral and evil. ...We even find people within the Church again attempting to fold the crime of procured abortion into a misguided interpretation of Catholic Social Teaching which pushes a false moral equivalence... Catholic Christians should not vote for any candidate who denies that the fundamental Right to Life must be recognized and protected in the civil law ...voting carries with it its own moral obligation. Not voting can have the effect of helping elect a candidate who denies the Right to Life.
Faithful Catholic Christians must affirm that all human persons are created in the Image of God and have a fundamental Right to Life. They have an inherent dignity - at every age and stage of their lives. This truth informs our respect for every human life, whether that life is found in the first home of the mother's womb, a wheelchair, a jail cell, a hospital room, a hospice, a senior center, a soup kitchen or on a refugee boat. However, life begins in the womb and that is where that right attaches.
Legal abortion as a "right" was manufactured out of whole cloth by a United States Supreme Court which exceeded its authority, rejected the Constitution, precedent and the Natural Law, embraced junk science, and used a false historical narrative to find a nonexistent "right" in the "penumbra" of the Constitution. In doing so, the Court unleashed the continued shedding of innocent blood. None of this is about "choice". Most thinking people will acknowledge that some choices are always and everywhere wrong. Killing the innocent is the prime example. The younger the victim, the more egregious. ...
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Nobody in that household is excommunicated. Just living in mortal sin.
Always? Uh, no. You're about 1,000 years off. But while you're at it, perhaps you can help us understand the difference between latae sententiae excommunication and ferendae sententiae excommunication? You seem to be the expert after all.
Catholics have always had the option to vote their consciences.
Some do.
I don’t speak Latin, so I’ll leave that to you.
My contention stands. A church which doesn’t deal with the heresy in its midst by EXPELLING the blasphemer is complicit in the heresy.
And you've found a church that expels their blasphemers? How do they keep them out?
Oh, and by the way, thanks for admitting your ignorance of the technical term excommunication.
But Chaput was supposedly one of the good ones. Wasn’t he Bishop of Denver years ago? He was vehemently pro-life and not afraid to preach it.
Thank you for posting that.
My grandmother and mother were part of many of the early protests in Boston. Not a pretty memory for them.
He was pro-life under JPII and BXVI.
He has said some weird things over the years. He wrote a column several years ago in which he blamed the LAITY for the fact that the Democrat party went pro-abortion. He said that the laity were to blame because they left the party!
NOT ONE WORD about the bishops’ total failure to address the problem of pro-abortion Catholic politicians. No. The LAITY were 100% to blame.
Although he has not let it pop out too often, it is clear that he thinks Catholics really have NO BUSINESS joining the Republican Party or voting Republican.
I think he is angling for a red hat, and slandering Trump as the moral equal of Hillary is the way he chose.
You are incorrect. There are seven crimes which incur an automatic excommunication.
In practice, it is meaningless. But it does exist.
I’m sorry to hear that. Chaput is wrong, of course. I left the Democrat Party in 1996 precisely because I felt unwelcome as a pro-life Catholic. I still can’t believe how many Kerry and Obama bumper stickers I’d see in the church parking lot on the cars of supposedly “devout” Catholics. I wanted to confront them but stopped myself because, as dutiful Catholics, we’re supposed to pray for them to have a change of heart instead. Hogwash! That’s why we’re in this mess now!
Tim Kaine gets standing ovations at his katholyk church in Richmond. He has the gushing support of his pastor, a Fr. Arsenault, and the bishop of Richmond, whose name I cannot recall.
American bishops appoint their successors. This fact scandalized Archbishop Pio Laghi when he arrived in Washington.
What that means is that generation of bishops who TOTALLY CAVED on birth control (except for ONE: Patrick Cardinal Aloysius O’Boyle, of Washington) appointed their successors, and those appointed their successors. This explains the ever-increasing cowardice, stupidity, homosexuality, etc., of the American hierarchy. Thus, the demented Blase Cupich, who says that being aborted is no worse than being unemployed or “undocumented,” and that gay couples are perfectly welcome to receive Communion.
I guess you’re proud of the “C”hurch these days?
haha
-——Sterilize most of africa and most of the middle east and otherwise decent people won’t fear bringing kinds into the world.
Eliminate evil to make more room for good.———
You must live a very tiny paranoid world....wrapped in a ignorance bubble...
Your statement is incoherent, but not unsurprising. We are in dark times and all should be joining up against a common Enemy instead of harping on doctrinal differences. That you choose to mock and divide is a sad commentary to how difficult this war against Evil is being fought.
I will pray for you.
Thank you for honestly answering. So, any heresy will basically be tolerated.
Is there a FReeper priest who might confirm that any penitent has ever confessed to voting Democrat? It would seem the RAT support of sin like homosexual behavior and abortion would make it a sin to vote for them!
Both side refuse to see that God looks upon the heart, not upon the form of worship.
You are making a lot of unfounded assumptions.
One: that excommunication is the remedy for heresy in all cases.
Under JPII and BXVI, a number of professors/authors were stripped of their “mandate” to teach Catholic theology. Charles Curran, Hans Kung, and Leonardo Boff were the most famous.
Two: that when I said “it is meaningless,” I was saying that nothing would ever be done about heresy.
What I was saying is that an “automatic” penalty of any kind is meaningless. Nobody applies it or announces it, and nobody is ever actually required to acknowledge its existence.
At the moment, those making war on Western Civilization—the Jihadists allied with the Globalists—have their man in the papacy. He called Emma Bonino—an abortionist who has killed 10,000 babies—”one of Italy’s forgotten heroines.” And of course, he assiduously denies that Islam is violent.
I had forgotten how the clergy is not to be criticized, and that some animals are more equal than others, even as they rewrite the very foundation of the religion. (doctrinal differences)
Thank you for reminding why I’ve put it all behind me.
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