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To: frog in a pot
The speculative side questions you raise in #96 convince me of only one thing, we will continue go nowhere in the absence of credible or conceded facts. (If you have a factual summary of the court proceedings in this instance, it would be interesting reading.)

We have a credible fact in that the Rio Police Department accused Lochte of breaking a soap dish. The two reporters from USA Today have confirmed this did not happen. Same thing with the mirror that the Rio police claim was broken. The mirror was found to be unbroken.

We have a fact that the Rio police did not submit a video of Lochte (or any other American) entering the bathroom they claim was vandalized. They have video for the entrance of the Bathroom because they showed us that they had video for the entrance of the bathroom.

We have a credible fact in two different Brazilian witnesses claim that the four Off Duty Rio Police officers who for some reason decided to be guarding a gas station in the middle of the night, did indeed point a gun at the Americans and demand money.

We have lots of credible facts, and they demonstrate to any reasonable man that the Rio police department lied about what happened.

As I and others have argued upthread, Lochte’s greatest and perhaps only offense may be that he, for his personal benefit, allowed a lie to his mother (?) to be spotlighted at the international level to the great embarrassment of the host country.

What lie did he tell his mother? I keep hearing that Lochte lied about something, but nobody seems willing to inform me regarding a significant lie that he told.

159 posted on 08/29/2016 12:13:47 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
The “credible facts” you set out pertain to minor, fringe issues.

Recommend you run this through your “reasonable man” test:
One of the swimmers reported that a highly intoxicated Lochte got in an argument with the station manager over the cost of damages caused by Lochte. The cops appeared and the matter concluded with Locte paying the manager. Thereafter, everyone went back to the compound.

What lie did he tell his mother? ...nobody seems willing to inform me... (It is surprising given your strong views of this incident that you haven't researched that point yourself.)

His original assertion that he was pulled over and robbed at gunpoint by police. The U.S. press contacted her and it hit the world press. He thereafter appeared on U.S. television and republished the lie. He later recanted and admitted he had embellished the lie. Perhaps his retraction occurred after the U.S. Olympic Committee viewed a security video of the incident, admitted an act of vandalism had taken place and apologized.

You and I are through wrestling in the mud.

173 posted on 08/29/2016 1:41:28 PM PDT by frog in a pot (When will come the time to question if a "religion" with totalitarian ambitions is a 1stA religion?)
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