Posted on 08/29/2016 7:41:17 AM PDT by Boomer
Full Title: Pictures Have Surfaced Of The Real Damage Caused By Ryan Lochte. Photos have finally been released of the alleged damage caused by American hero Ryan Lochte and his teammates.
ESPN reporter Darren Rovell tweeted out a picture of the sign torn off the outside of the gas station in Rio. Rovell also clarified that the sign was given to the gas station for free.
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Mordida or bribes and corruption are common everywhere but
Japan
Taiwan
South Korea
Singapore of course
USA
Canada
Aussie and NZ
Western Europe except east bloc and Italy and France and yes Spain
Cop and govt corruption is the norm everywhere else
It’s not just Spanish speaking
Chilé is probably least corrupt in Latin America
Mexico is the worst no question
The next day, a bystander was killed in the retaliation.
-PJ
Because it doesn’t even matter
Other then bomb them back to the stone age, what can we do about it?
Its pointless, it does matter if the guard pulled a gun on them or not, it doesn’t matter if they destroyed the bathroom or not it doesn’t matter about the poster.
You play by their rules, you don’t agree to the rules, don’t go.
Maybe pulling posters down in America you can get away with it by cursing out the store owner and the store owner will just back down and cower in the corner because he doesn’t want to offend the youth. But that is here. Lochte could probably go into any American 7/11 and mess the place up and the store clerk wouldn’t even say anything.
He should have said what really happened and never filed a false police report. Those are no-nos. He made this worse by lying. If Lochte had character this would not even have been a problem.
I don’t even look at this as an America vs Brazil thing, I look at this as an individual(s) vs a foreign government.
Maybe I didn't phrase my point clearly. Let me try again.
Why are Freepers buying into the lie told by a corrupt foreign socialist police force?
He should have said what really happened and never filed a false police report.
Why are *YOU* buying into a lie told by a corrupt foreign socialist police force?
Lochte did not file a "false" police report. He filed a very accurate and true police report.
What is false about the Police report he filed?
Because what he described what happened was false, the robbery itself was false according to the police.
Now I don’t care if the police are lying or he is lying or everyone is lying that is involved here
My point is, you are at their will, challenging them is stupid, Lochte was stupid to put himself in that position and is even more stupid in how he handled it, granted all of that alcohol didn’t help him any. But at 32 you have to be responsible for yourself.
This is about character and judgement. This crap might fly here in America, but doing this in a foreign country is beyond stupid.
He never filed a police report. He gave some interviews, but never filed any report. The USA Today article quoted a Brazilian lawyer, an expert in criminal law saying that does not constitute the filing of a police report under that nation’s laws.
Has no one still attacking Lochte read that article or any of the news coverage that has come out after that?
Probably wishes now that he just kept his mouth shut until he and his team mates got home safely
Sometimes $400 just isn’t worth the international scrutiny
Blame a terrible education in history and geography as well as a lack of mapping knowledge.
You and I agree on this. Only a fool would take their word on nearly anything. This was all an emotional counterattack by a country who felt it was being painted unfairly in the world court of opinion.
I know, hard to imagine how they might feel that way, with all the stuff they did and didn’t do leading up to and including the Olympics!
You aren't getting this, are you? We have demonstrated proof that the Brazilian police lied about the vandalism of the Bathroom. Do you not think they will also lie about members of their police force robbing those guys?
The video demonstrates that the Athletes had a gun pointed at them by people now acknowledged to be Rio Police. Two Brazilian witnesses also admit the police pointed guns at the athletes.
This is about character and judgement. This crap might fly here in America, but doing this in a foreign country is beyond stupid.
The problem is not in Brazil. The Problem is here in the United States where gullible people appear willing to believe crap they have been told, and don't care that the evidence proves what they were told is wrong.
If the Rio police were in the right, why did they make up the lie about the Bathroom?
Honest people do not make up a lie to explain what they did. People attempting to cover something up make up lies to "explain" what they did.
Rio police made up a lie about a vandalized bathroom, ergo Rio police are trying to cover something up. What they are trying to cover up is the fact that four of their cops robbed those men at gunpoint.
Res ipsa loquitur.
That was later, and I agree that was probably part of the reason why the Rio cops made the issue about the athletes instead of the behavior of their own men.
I think the confrontation at the gas station started because the Americans were probably acting like jerks, and possibly not respecting the "Machismo" of the Rio cops. I could be wrong about this, and it could have been a straight up robbery because the cops wanted money, but i'm more inclined to believe it was to get "respect."
I know, hard to imagine how they might feel that way, with all the stuff they did and didn’t do leading up to and including the Olympics!
Hosting the Olympics is a suckers bet anyway. From what I have read, only the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles actually turned a profit for the Host Country.
Recommend you run this through your “reasonable man” test:
One of the swimmers reported that a highly intoxicated Lochte got in an argument with the station manager over the cost of damages caused by Lochte. The cops appeared and the matter concluded with Locte paying the manager. Thereafter, everyone went back to the compound.
What lie did he tell his mother? ...nobody seems willing to inform me... (It is surprising given your strong views of this incident that you haven't researched that point yourself.)
His original assertion that he was pulled over and robbed at gunpoint by police. The U.S. press contacted her and it hit the world press. He thereafter appeared on U.S. television and republished the lie. He later recanted and admitted he had embellished the lie. Perhaps his retraction occurred after the U.S. Olympic Committee viewed a security video of the incident, admitted an act of vandalism had taken place and apologized.
You and I are through wrestling in the mud.
We have four drunk guys and a corrupt government
The four drunk guys are guests in the corrupt country
Best advice, get out and don’t look back
The truth is in the middle someplace
We have more important things here in America to do with our own corrupt government. I am not on here to fix the corruption or expose the corruption of the Brazilian government.
Only gullible people will believe one over the other, I don’t believe either. There is a tsunami of reports on this, all saying something different. But the truth doesn’t matter anymore because in the end of the day, it is their rules, not ours. But you seem to have a hard time understanding this.
I feel like i'm trying to explain color to a blind man. The evidence that has so far come forth demonstrates there was no "damages" beyond that poster. The damages alleged by the Rio Police department have been proven false.
So let's put the "reasonable man" test on you. Do you think $400.00 is a reasonable amount to pay for the damages to a wall poster advertisement? Even by Rio standards?
What lie did he tell his mother? ...nobody seems willing to inform me... (It is surprising given your strong views of this incident that you haven't researched that point yourself.)
One would think it would be sufficiently easy for any one of you who alleges he lied to his mother, to say what the lie was, but yet once again, you have missed the perfect opportunity to relate to me of what this supposed "lie" consisted.
His original assertion that he was pulled over and robbed at gunpoint by police.
Which turns out to be essentially correct. The only thing about which he could be considered mistaken, is his claim that he was "pulled over". But a drunk sitting in a Taxi, and then rousted out suddenly, may very well have believed he had been "pulled over."
He thereafter appeared on U.S. television and republished the lie.
Which was not a lie, but was in fact the truth.
He later recanted and admitted he had embellished the lie.
While the corrupt socialist third world hell-hole police had his team mates for hostages and was threatening to prosecute them. This is known as "confession under duress" and is not admissible in a US Court.
As I have stated before, if my friends and team mates were being held hostage by a corrupt third world hell-hole, I would admit to being the second gunman on the grassy knoll if I thought it would get them out of that third world sewer.
He said what he needed to say to get the Corrupt Rio authorities to back off from ransoming his friends. Even so, they forced them to pay $11,000 to get their passport back. Do you think *THAT* was reasonable?
You and I are through wrestling in the mud.
I haven't been wrestling in the mud. I have been telling the accurate truth, and *YOU* keep parroting the lies spread by the corrupt Rio Police force who were trying to cover their own @$$ for robbing an American of $400.00 at gunpoint.
Again, we can *PROVE* that the Rio police lied about the Vandalism. If they lied about the vandalism, they have no credibility in any of their other statements.
Do you not grasp that their veracity has been impeached?
Obviously we are too busy to correct the record regarding the character of a man that has wrongfully been impugned by a corrupt third world police force.
We Freepers have too many other things to worry about rather than getting the accurate facts before we jump to our predetermined conclusions.
Let us just keep repeating what the lying media and the lying Rio Police department says about the incident, because no good will be served by insisting on the truth.
Again, this is not about Brazil or it's corrupt police, it is about Americans who knee jerk throw in with Corrupt Media and corrupt third world socialist police.
I expected better of people who are my countrymen.
That was the games organized by Peter Ueberroth. They generated a $200 million profit, the most in Olympic history.
The 2002 winter games in Salt Lake City, organized by Mitt Romney, also netted a $40 million surplus.
-PJ
We don’t know that for sure
He got himself into that trouble and they did damage property. If the poster/sign was worth $400 or $4 is doesn’t matter.
Its not like the pulled these guys out of the car and put a gun in his face demanding wallets and watches, that he originally claimed.
So we have a lot of he said/she said involved here and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle
I don’t care Lochte lost sponsors, he was one to get so drunk that the ended up ripping a sign down at a gas station (what can be proven) I don’t care about the Brazilian police force, is it corrupt, heck yes. But he knew that before he went there.
Again, if he showed respect for the host country and did not get himself so irresponsibly drunk that he can no longer control himself, how is that the fault of the Brazil police force? He acted badly, and he should have had the character to at least handle himself responsible in a foreign land. Guess he learned his lesson, the hard and stupid way of course.
This is common sense and how to deal with countries like this. He failed to heed this advice, which I am sure was given to him by coaches or whomever he works with. Responsibility begins with the individual. And he wasn’t acting responsible that night.
You are making a lot of excuses and stories for this adult and responsible man
I am just pointing out, we actually know nothing of factual information and busting up a poster and paying $400 seems like robbery to Lochte, well, he should have thought of that before he did it. But then again, he was too drunk to think strait.
Remember, the gas station owner did not ask for Lochte to stop by and do “improvements” to his station. Nor was he hired to do this unauthorized work. The story is all he said/she said and to me the truth is somewhere in the middle.
At the end, Lochte is a moron and should have been smart enough to not put himself in this situation in the first place. I originally believe Lochte’s story and was disappointed of his actions, this is not how an athlete from our country should behave in a foreign host country. He should be ashamed of himself for his actions. I don’t care how much the poster or sign was worth or if a soap disk was busted or not. At the end of the day, they should have never ever had put themselves in that position. And never done petty vandalism either.
Best thing for lochte to have done early on, tell the truth and apologized (even if he thought it wasn’t 100% his fault) and moved on and this would have died down weeks ago.
Sorry I don’t hold a drunk and stupid Lochte as a oracle of truth either, he did “lie” with his story of being stopped in a taxi cab. He did lie about his watch and wallet being stolen, when 30 minutes after the so called robbery he went through a security check point where everyone had their wallets and watches.
Sorry I don’t believe Lyin’ Ryan either
WE have more important causes to work on, then this self inflicted mess.
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