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In-person voting fraud is rare, doesn't affect elections
Associated Press ^ | Aug. 20, 2016 2:50 AM EDT | Hope Yen

Posted on 08/20/2016 2:25:04 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Donald Trump’s newest campaign ad begins with a warning: “In Hillary Clinton’s America, the system stays rigged against Americans.”

The commercial, which aired Friday as part of his $5 million swing state ad buy, hearkens back to a claim Trump has been hammering for weeks — that the general election is rigged against him. The questionable claim looks to mobilize Republicans, with the all-important start of early voting in some states just weeks away. […]

Is voting fraud a problem? Not the type that Trump is referring to.

While fraud can occur, the number of cases is very small and the type that voter IDs are designed to prevent — voter impersonation at the ballot box — is virtually non-existent. …

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionfraud; hillary; trump; voterfraud
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To: Olog-hai

Voter fraud and electoral fraud are not necessarily the same thing.


21 posted on 08/20/2016 4:15:03 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Olog-hai

Here we go - media’s moving in to seal the deal. Trump better be ramping up for election day games.


22 posted on 08/20/2016 4:30:47 AM PDT by quesney
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To: Olog-hai

“””In-person voting fraud is rare, doesn’t affect elections”””


If in-person voting fraud is rare, then why are especially the Democrats and to some degree the Republicans pushing people to vote by mail?


23 posted on 08/20/2016 4:33:55 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Olog-hai

Seems like a misrepresentation of Trump’s message. When he says “stays rigged against Americans” he isn’t talking about voter fraud on election day. He is talking about a political system that ignores misdeeds by government officials while prosecuting or persecuting everyday people for the same actions; that coerces behavior with onerous regulations; that actively schemes to give jobs to foreigners; that gives itself exemptions from laws others must follow; that gives itself perks and benefits paid for by taxpayers who can’t obtain or afford the same; that uses institutions of government for graft and corruption; that abuses power to punish opposition and dissent and so on. It doesnt matter if voter impersonation fraud is widespread or rare, it is about an us vs them mentality where those in power show contempt for citizens bending and breaking laws to serve its own self interest and against the interests of the citizenry.


24 posted on 08/20/2016 4:38:07 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Olog-hai

How would officials catch people doing the in-person type of frauds? The fact that there aren’t many cases on record does not mean it is not occurring, and does not mean it might not occur on a very large scale rather suddenly if someone decided to put effort and resource into organizing it.


25 posted on 08/20/2016 4:48:58 AM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: monkeyshine

Yup! That’s what I thought Trump’s message was.

Weird how some people’s reasoning works one way and some another


26 posted on 08/20/2016 4:52:13 AM PDT by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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To: monkeyshine

well said !!!!!!


27 posted on 08/20/2016 4:53:25 AM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: Recon Dad
They stole the governors race in Ct. with stolen and misplaced ballots in Bridgeport several years ago. The entire D party is a fraud and criminal enterprise .
28 posted on 08/20/2016 4:58:17 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: Olog-hai
Is voting fraud a problem? Not the type that Trump is referring to.

While fraud can occur, the number of cases is very small and the type that voter IDs are designed to prevent — voter impersonation at the ballot box — is virtually non-existent. …

Bull Shit! watch the videos.

29 posted on 08/20/2016 5:07:39 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: Olog-hai

And Philly and areas really didn’t have some poling stations with 110% of registered voters and go 100% for Obama.......


30 posted on 08/20/2016 5:12:22 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Olog-hai
While fraud can occur, the number of cases is very small and the type that voter IDs are designed to prevent — voter impersonation at the ballot box — is virtually non-existent.

False argument. The writer knows dang well that voter fraud occurs, where it occurs, what manner it occurs and which party (by a 19:1 ratio) performs the fraud. There is a special place in hell for these people.

31 posted on 08/20/2016 5:19:57 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: Olog-hai

Is it opposite day again?


32 posted on 08/20/2016 5:21:41 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Olog-hai
Advance mail voting, voting machine fixing, counting and tabulation fraud don't require walk ins.
I haven't forgotten how some democrat won a recount because they kept "finding" ballots in bathroom waste bins or someones car trunk.
Under the guise of "all votes must be counted" they allowed those unvetted ballots to be tallied.
All while mail-in votes from our overseas troops were *not* counted.

33 posted on 08/20/2016 5:23:38 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

She’s a Harvard Law Grad, so her bias is probably ideologically based instead of outright bribery.

But it does beg the question, why exactly is a former lawyer and Harvard Law Grad writing crap for AP?

I really don’t put much stock in her “numbers and cases found”......I think it’s just made up BS, frankly.


34 posted on 08/20/2016 5:33:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, and the globe is warming, electric cars rule, Hillary doesn’t lie, Dorkbama is not a Muslim, and Bubba never raped a woman.


35 posted on 08/20/2016 6:00:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Olog-hai
Anyone who makes definitive claims that voter fraud doesn't exist, or is only a minor inconsequential issue, is either stating this from an agenda-driven perspective, or from ignorance. Democrat voter fraud goes back a long way, and was famous during the Richard J. Daley days in Chicago. Although fraud has not been definitively proven in the 1960 Presidential election, JFK won Illinois by 9000 votes, though Nixon won 92 of the 101 Illinois counties. Chicago, and Cook county, run by Daley and the democrats, gave JFK a 450,000 vote margin win in that county - even though the TOTAL population of Chicago at that time was ~3.55 million. And, Daley held back the Chicago vote until late the next morning.

The bottom line is that you don't have to change the popular vote much, just need to control votes in specific places. Yes, it is doable, and likely easier now than ever before - given the technology we use.

36 posted on 08/20/2016 6:03:21 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Olog-hai

37 posted on 08/20/2016 6:18:06 AM PDT by null and void (Has there ever been a death associated with the Clintons that *wasn't* beneficial to them?)
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To: Olog-hai

Fraud by definition is concealed. How does author know it’s a small number?


38 posted on 08/20/2016 6:20:51 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

I can’t believe a thing that the mainstream media says.


39 posted on 08/20/2016 6:33:30 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Hillary will govern like Obama surrogate PA Gov.Wolfe, taking PA to the bottom, making life worse.)
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To: Olog-hai

LOL!! FUAP


40 posted on 08/20/2016 6:46:59 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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