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By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz August 16, 2016 , 12:30 pm
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Then I will establish the throne of thy kingdom over Yisrael for ever; according as I promised to David thy father, saying: There shall not fail thee a man upon the throne of Yisrael. I Kings 9:5 (The Israel Bible)
image: http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/king-david-harp.jpg King David fresco by Tarquinio Ligustri (1603). (Renata Sedmakova / Shutterstock.com)
King David fresco by Tarquinio Ligustri (1603). (Renata Sedmakova / Shutterstock.com)
It might come as a shock to many to learn that hundreds of descendants of King David are alive today, with verifiable family trees dating back 90 generations, and that the royal Davidic dynasty could potentially be established today in Israel.
Though some may be skeptical of the genealogical proof, many secular researchers of genealogy have studied the line of David. The research is facilitated by the fact that a number of European monarchs throughout history have gone to great lengths to prove family ties to the Davidic Dynasty, and a solid ancestry has been established.
Within the Jewish community, genealogical studies have shown several families that can claim descent ben akhar ben (father to son) in a direct line, most notably the Dayan, Shealtiel and Charlap/Don Yechia families. Most of these families come from Aleppo, Syria.
Susan Roth founded the Davidic Dynasty organization in 2000 to gather and reunite Davidic descendants in the Holy City of Jerusalem. Roth has a personal interest as well, tracing her lineage back to King David through Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki, the preeminent 11th century French Torah scholar known by the acronym Rashi.
Her registry currently lists approximately 150 descendants who have verifiable descent to King David. However, efforts to introduce this reality into mainstream Judaism have met with surprising resistance.
When she first compiled her list, Roth contacted Israels Chief Rabbinate to inform them of her registry but, surprisingly, they expressed no interest.
They were shocked, but they never followed up. My interest was simply to do Gods will, but they understood it as a political agenda. They dont want King Davids dynasty and they dont want Moshiach (Messiah), Roth told Breaking Israel News.
Even though it is clear Moshiach is here. He is just hiding, she added.
image: http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/mitch-dayan-273x300.jpeg Mitch Dayan claims descent from King David. (Courtesy) Mitchell Dayan (Courtesy)
One of her discoveries was Mitchell Dayan. In 1983, Dayan was mourning for his brother. Amazed at the number of visitors who claimed to be from his family, he began to research his genealogy. Dayans research led him to a book called Yashir Moshe, a commentary on Song of Songs written in 1864 by Rabbi Moshe Dayan. In the prologue to the book, the rabbi lists his genealogy, leading back to King David. In this list, Mitchell found the name of his great grandfather from Aleppo.
Another genealogic list was found in the Cairo geniza, a storehouse of over 300,000 Jewish documents discovered in the late 1800s. The two lists were almost identical, despite the Cairo list being compiled hundreds of years earlier. Through these sources, Mitchell Dayan was able to verify his lineage back 87 generations to King David.
image: http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/useful_banner_manager_banners/433-BIN%20Sign%20Up%20-%20600.jpg Stay up to date with all your Prophecy News! The actual descendants may not know it but there are descendants of King David alive today, Dayan told Breaking Israel News. This was prophesied in the Bible but it is also fact. Politics are irrelevant. It is going to happen, one day or another.
For thus saith Hashem: There shall not be cut off unto David a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Yisrael. Jeremiah 33:17
In 2005, another Dayan, Rabbi Yosef Dayan, was recognized by the nascent Sanhedrin as a direct descendant of King David and, as such, a candidate to re-establish the Davidic Dynasty. Similar to Mitchell Dayan, his discovery came as a result of a death in the family.
Soon after he immigrated to Israel in 1968, Rabbi Dayan buried his grandfather in Jerusalem. He was surprised to see inscribed on the headstone the words MBet David (from the house of David). Rabbi Dayan discovered that this inscription was a family custom dating back to their origins in Aleppo.
Several years later, Rabbi Dayan received an antique document from a cousin which lists his genealogy, showing him to be the 89th generation from King David. This document was verified by Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu, the former Chief Sephardi Rabbi of Israel.
This concept of family tradition is not surprising, Rabbi Dayan told Breaking Israel News. The Kohanim (priests) have a family tradition that they are descended from Aaron the Priest, well before King David, and this tradition is totally accepted by the rabbis. This tradition has been proven accurate by DNA testing.
Rabbi Dayan is disappointed by the lack of acceptance by rabbinic authorities and mainstream Judaism.
image: http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/yosef-dayan.png Rabbi Yosef Dayan. (Screenshot) Rabbi Yosef Dayan. (Screenshot)
Just as the Kohanic tradition is accepted, the same should be true for the descendants of King David, but even more so, Rabbi Dayan said. We have written family trees, and our tradition is engraved on gravestones for the offspring to take note of their ancestry.
Breaking Israel News asked Rabbi Dayan why he thought there exists so much resistance to acknowledging the Davidic Dynasty.
On why there exists so much resistance to acknowledging the Davidic dynasty, Rabbi Dayan explained, There is a basic error in understanding the Kingdom of David.
The Moshiach is already here. Moshiach in Hebrew means anointed. It is not a miracle. The family of David exists and is waiting for Israel to choose one and anoint him.
By claiming incorrectly that there are no living descendants of King David, the Moshiach becomes dependent upon a miracle from heaven, thereby absolving the rabbis from any responsibility for taking action to bringing the Messiah.
The Messiah has already come. We just need to be ready for his return. No one knows the day, but the sooner, the better.
Same here. Seventeen of the 25 barons had progeny and I am related to 14 of them. I know that Richard de Clare takes you straight to Charlemagne, and ultimately, Adam. Joseph of Arimathea was also in that lineage.
"Jefferson, the third president of the U.S., slept with one of his slaves, a woman called Sally Hemings, and fathered a child with her. A 1998 study found that Jefferson has an extremely rare DNA type, his Y chromosome belonging to just 1 percent of the population."
This is an outright lie. There is no proof that Thomas Jefferson fathered any of Sally Hemming's children. The DNA study concluded that any Jefferson family male (even from previous generations) could have contributed the DNA found in the Hemmings family descendants.
I have no doubt that there are thousands if no millions of descendants of King David in the world. He had twenty sons and a unrecorded number of daughters.
It would be odd if they had all been wiped out.
Because I’ve got Plantagenets I’ve got William duke of Normandy, and because I’ve got William I’ve got Charlemagne. Oddly, I’m as proud of Charlemagne’s grandfather Charles Martel as I am of Charlemagne.
By the way, that makes you cousin to George Washington (and a slew of other founders).
Also Clovis and St. Louis (Louis IX, King of France).
Also, do you have the lineage that links in the Washington Family?
No, it doesn't. We're all descended from someone.
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The number of descendants of King David through the patrilineal line by Jewish mothers might be much smaller than one might imagine. Persecutions (some targeting Davidic descendants) and the Ashkenazi ‘bottleneck’ some 30 or so generations ago increase the likelihood of fewer Davidic descendants.
But even so, the number might still be in the tens of thousands out of 12 million or so Jews.
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“The offense is in calling Jews stupid or worse for not accepting Jesus as the Messiah.”
No offense to others - those are MY beliefs, grounded in the faith of my fathers.
“Did not the Christians there come from Jewish converts?”
But that is of no importance as far as the Jewish belief in the Messiah is concerned. Why? Because the Messiah will be a Jewish man who is extremely learned and extremely observant. While in a genetic sense, some of those Christians could conceivably trace their ancestry to King David on their patrilineal line, they are clearly not practicing Jews and thus cannot be the Messiah.
“The Messiah has already come. We just need to be ready for his return. No one knows the day, but the sooner, the better.”
It is not my belief, as I am Jewish. We believe that the Messiah has not yet come. He will be a man who is perfectly suited for the position, and if the time is right then G-d will imbue him with certain powers to affect change in the hearts of men. There will be no do-overs, as G-d is perfect and His chosen will not (CAN not) fail. FYI, I say “if the time is right” because it is a firm Jewish belief that in every generation there is at least one person who COULD be the Messiah, because that person is learned and righteous enough, but that potential will only be realized in one individual...when G-d determines that it is time.
Even under Jewish law, you are not obligated to believe as I do in order to have a place in the World to Come (i.e. Heaven). You need only abide by the 7 Noahide laws.
FYI, it is also part of Jewish belief that we need to ready ourselves for his appearance - to learn how to do what is right AND to actually DO what is right (mainly in the realm of doing kindness to others, giving charity, etc., but there is a LOT more to it, of course). You’re correct that no one knows the day. You’re also correct that the sooner, the better - because if our collective deeds are sufficient to bring the Messiah sooner than the otherwise appointed time, then the heartache and hardship of the period leading to his appearance will be less difficult. If we are not up to that standard, if the Messiah comes at his appointed time (i.e. near the year 6,000, 2240 in our calendar), then that generation will know hardship like none since the Creation. Pray and act to prevent that.
True if you’re only talking about those eligible to be the Messiah. However, the number who could - in theory - be descended from David is likely a pretty large percentage of the combined European and Mideastern population (including, of course, those of such descent who migrated elsewhere).
There will be some percentage of Africans, via Solomon’s son, Menelik (from the Queen of Sheba), plus still more from those Jews escaping to Africa after the destruction of either the First or Second Temples.
Yes, the Ashkenazi bottleneck is a big problem - if you’re predisposed to think that the Messiah should be a European Jew or descended of them. At least statistically - none of us could possibly say if, how, or to what extent G-d decided to protect David’s European descendants during that time period.
Ruth was David’s great-grandmother, but she was a Moabite, so descended from Lot, Abraham’s nephew. Was she technically a Gentile?
My Revolutionary War ancestor had 21 children by 3 wives...the youngest child was 5 years old when her father died aged 78, but the child I am descended from was about 42 years older.
Just did a quick calculation back to my great-grandparents. My oldest great-grandfather was born 114 years before I was, the youngest was born 85 years before I was...it averages out to 33 2/3 years. With my great-grandmothers it averages out to 30 2/3 years.
And the view from here...
According to the Zohar, the entire period of time allotted for Techiyas HaMeisim is between 210-214 years in advance of 6000. These are not the opinions of obscure rabbis, but of Rebi Yehudah HaNasi, the author of the Mishnah, and Rebi Yitzchak, a central figure of the same time period. They are, therefore, mainstream opinions, with which no one argues, at least not in the Zohar. As hard as this may be to fathom, that Techiyas HaMeisim may be only 10-14 years away, there really is no reason not to believe it.And, according to the Zohar, that begins after 40 years of Kibbutz Golios, which makes the beginning of it 26-30 years ago, around 1986-1990. So, if Kibbutz Golios lasts 40 years, and Techiyas HaMeisim comes at its conclusion, then Yemos HaMoshiachthe arrival and reign of Moshiachmust be part of the period of time called Kibbutz Golios, of which there is only 10-14 years left, according to Rebi Yehudah and Rebi Yitzchak.
Quoting from the article: "The Moshiach is already here. Moshiach in Hebrew means anointed. It is not a miracle."
I believe so, since all Jews are directly deccended from Abraham. Many orthodox Jews do not consider David a full Jew.
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