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(Apple's) Tim Cook: Privacy Is Worth Protecting
Information Week Government ^ | August 15, 2016 | By Eric Zeman

Posted on 08/15/2016 9:11:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 08/15/2016 9:11:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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2 posted on 08/15/2016 9:15:09 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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Apple caused quite a stir earlier this year when it refused a request from the US Department of Justice to unlock a suspected terrorist's iPhone.

If I recall correctly the feds were pressuring Apple to give them the ability to unlock all iPhones. Worse, the particular iPhone used by the feds as a Trojan Horse could have been unlocked by its local government owner at any time until some idiot changed the password. And finally, I do not see here nor recall any mention of a warrant.

Though the article alludes to it, nowhere does it specify that pesky Fourth Amendment. But who am I to believe that the Constitution still has any force in America?!

3 posted on 08/15/2016 9:43:02 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Swordmaker

Tim still doesn’t get it. Sometimes it’s right for private companies to help law enforcement.


4 posted on 08/15/2016 9:52:51 PM PDT by lee martell
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Tim still doesn’t get it. Sometimes it’s right for private companies to help law enforcement.

Apple was assisting law enforcement until the FBI changed the AppleID on the iPhone and then wanted Apple to create special universal software to unlock iPhones and supply it to them. That, they said "NO!" to doing. Rightly so. You are the one who does not understand what was at risk.

5 posted on 08/15/2016 9:55:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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The privacy of a dead murderous terrorist is probably not where Apple should have taken this stand.

Other could have been slaughtered by surprise as well.

There ought to be some common sense invoked where possibly the lives of unknown nbrs of innocents could be protected.

Who really believes that a dead mass murderer is entitled to privacy?

6 posted on 08/15/2016 10:04:33 PM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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“The privacy of a dead murderous terrorist is probably not where Apple should have taken this stand.”

Bullshit. The feds wouldn’t look at that woman’s facebook page out of concern for her privacy. They ignored a million warnings. Then they whine that they don’t have the tools to keep us safe because of apple? Not buying.


7 posted on 08/15/2016 10:11:51 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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And the feds didn’t want THAT phone opened. They wanted Apple to supply them with a tool they could use without limit. This was another FBI con game trying to expand their already disgusting levels of power and surveillance domestically.


8 posted on 08/15/2016 10:14:53 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: lee martell
Tim still doesn’t get it.

You seem to be the one that doesn't get it.

9 posted on 08/15/2016 11:16:16 PM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: Radix
The privacy of a dead murderous terrorist is probably not where Apple should have taken this stand

You don't take it for a Sunday school teacher, Radix. It means nothing there. Protection for the encryption is either all, or it's nothing. That is the problem. You provide a backdoor for the good guys today, and it is guaranteed that the bad guys will have it by the end of the week.

Blackberry RIM discovered that to their dismay several years ago when they volunteered to give the Backdoor key to allow the police to access a Blackberry owned by a pedophile to get a conviction on the guarantee that it would not be released and used only that one time. When it went to trial, the judge ruled the defense was entitled to see all the evidence and how it was attained.

The police and prosecutors were ordered to release the RIM code to the defense and their IT team to assure that the evidence, thousands of kiddy porn videos and pictures, could not have been "planted" by the police on the Blackberry phone. The DA's IT guy kept a copy of the code for himself ("Never know when it might come in handy?" So did the police.) and the IT guy for the defense gave copies out to his buddies. At the end of the trial, the news media petitioned the judge, claiming the "public's right to know" and the judge agreed, and ordered the code released to the press, even though the judge had agreed it would NEVER be released, as well. So much for RIM's proprietary, "secret" secure encryption and privacy on their phones. RIM had to scramble to create a new approach to secure all of their existing and new phones at great cost to them and their customers, not to mention risk to the companies and governments who relied on their assurances of security!

If Apple had made the unlocking software available to the FBI as the Magistrate Judge ordered under the All Writs Act order, and it resulted in arrests, the SAME THING would have happened under the rules of discovery. There is no way it could not happen under our rules of jurisprudence! Ergo, the only safety lies in never creating the backdoor or any unlocking software in the first place.

10 posted on 08/15/2016 11:35:23 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Apple’s privacy is worth protecting, and so is Tim Cook’s. Not yours. All your Apple info was sold to the Chinese long ago.


11 posted on 08/16/2016 12:19:47 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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All your Apple info was sold to the Chinese long ago.

Source? Or are you just making up facts as you go along?

The alternative to iOS is Android, made by Google and distributed for "free". When a product is given away for "free", make no mistake about it; YOU are the product. Apple makes money off the hardware, that's why they fight to keep their users information private. That is the deal.

12 posted on 08/16/2016 4:49:38 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: lee martell
Tim still doesn’t get it. Sometimes it’s right for private companies to help law enforcement.

Ever heard of the 4th amendment, No? I didn't think so.

13 posted on 08/16/2016 4:52:56 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga; Swordmaker
Ever heard of the 4th amendment, No? I didn't think so.
On the subject of the Constitution, I have a modest suggestion. Ask yourself, “How long is the Constitution? (Answer: 4000 words, about 20 typed pages).

Now ask yourself, “How many Democrat voters have never read the Constitution, and think of it as great big black box?” IMHO, the answer to that would be a clear majority.

I put it to you that any broadcaster who is licensed by the FCC to broadcast “in the public interest as a public trustee” should be pressed to promote the knowledge of the compactness of the Constitution, and its accessibility. Voters should be challenged to read it.

Especially, as of this writing, the part that says

Article 1 Section 9:
No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

14 posted on 08/16/2016 7:22:00 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Hodar

The Chinks have every back door there ever was, is and will be to every Apple product. Plus all the information Apple has on you and everyone else. Apple is more than happy to hand this over to the Chinks in return for access to their vast pool of slave labor. It’s the price of doing business with Chinks.


15 posted on 08/16/2016 8:00:08 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Apple’s privacy is worth protecting, and so is Tim Cook’s. Not yours. All your Apple info was sold to the Chinese long ago.

If that were so, there would be iPhone and iMac clones all over the place. Know any other lies you want to spout?

16 posted on 08/16/2016 9:25:06 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
The Chinks have every back door there ever was, is and will be to every Apple product. Plus all the information Apple has on you and everyone else. Apple is more than happy to hand this over to the Chinks in return for access to their vast pool of slave labor. It’s the price of doing business with Chinks.

Oh, you did have some more lies to tell. Microsoft handed over the entire SOURCE CODE to the Chinese. Apple refused. You really do not know what you are talking about.

17 posted on 08/16/2016 9:28:24 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
Apple refused.

Lol, sure.

18 posted on 08/16/2016 10:06:28 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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To: lee martell
Tim still doesn’t get it. Sometimes it’s right for private companies to help law enforcement.

And some "freepers" don't get the Constitution...

19 posted on 08/16/2016 10:19:37 AM PDT by TheBattman (A member over 15 years, yet my posts are "submitted for review")
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
"Apple refused."

Lol, sure.

That is an established historical fact, for all your LOLing. You are welcome to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

20 posted on 08/16/2016 3:19:55 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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