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Next president faces possible ObamaCare meltdown
thehill.com ^ | 08/11/16 06:02 AM EDT | By Sarah Ferris

Posted on 08/11/2016 10:45:56 AM PDT by Red Badger

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21 posted on 08/11/2016 11:06:13 AM PDT by JPG (Go Trump!)
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It certainly is not working anything like we were told it would. The system as a whole is in crisis but more pressing, most individuals are in personal crisis having this communist health collective forced on us and having the insurance companies intentionally driven out.

Those of you that have been retired for the last several years can take a simple test to illustrate our personal crisis. Just compare your total personal medical care expense five years ago with now. Compare the percent of your personal disposable income including SSA today is consumed with medical costs today with just five years ago.


22 posted on 08/11/2016 11:06:53 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Red Badger

Great West combined with Cigna and then Cigna combined with Blue Cross. Still waiting to see what impact the latest merger will have on doctor clients who are Cigna providers but not providers with Blue Cross.

United Healthcare is a joke. The big umbrella is Optum, the mental health portion is generally United Behavioral Health. Just received notice that they have signed a whole lot of contracts in Texas for totally state funded plans for illegals, particularly children. Contract rates for docs who see patients under the state funded plan are a lot higher than is paid to the docs who see patients under an employer funded plan. Taxpayers are being taken to the cleaners! Thanks Governor.


23 posted on 08/11/2016 11:11:42 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Red Badger
The Constitution is one big Ouija Board.

Today, it is fashionable, in vogue, to completely ignore parts (Article I Section 8, limited powers) while observing others (Presidential election every 4 years). The line between ignore what's fashionable to ignore and what's fashionable to follow is very grey.

Whose to say the remaining parts we follow today won't erode away slowly into the future, such as the presidential election/electoral college part? Whose to say the remaining parts we follow today won't erode away quite quickly? or overnight due to some "crisis"?

24 posted on 08/11/2016 11:12:25 AM PDT by C210N
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To: Red Badger

The looming ObamaCare crisis will be solved by the UniParty: single payor healthcare financing.


25 posted on 08/11/2016 11:15:14 AM PDT by buckalfa (In your heart you know he's right.)
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To: Red Badger

“in-person outreach to help more people enroll”

Commie care is bad enough, now we’re going to have brown-shirts knocking on people’s doors asking why they haven’t signed up.


26 posted on 08/11/2016 11:15:58 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: chajin

Don’t both candidates want single payer?


27 posted on 08/11/2016 11:16:07 AM PDT by nickcarraway (t)
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To: JPG

Obama: The Jive Hustler who relies on the ignorance of idiots to believe every word he says.


28 posted on 08/11/2016 11:18:31 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Red Badger

Obamacare demolition does not matter. Hilda beast will be safely ensconced in the White House by then.


29 posted on 08/11/2016 11:20:40 AM PDT by entropy12 (The never Trumpsters are either Globalists or perma-neocons.)
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To: Red Badger

while also driving up rates

It was designed to drive up rates and to push insurance companies into bankruptcy so they could foist their single payer system on everyone.
Average cost are going up 9% ???? Really? They turn right around and cite 2 states with 40% increases and you can add so many more, like Illinois.

Everyone I know is having rate increases on a massive scale and not just the exchanges. What you get from your employer may be a group policy, not necessarily an exchange policy. How much have they gone up? Ours have gone up double digits every year since this dumblecrat bohica law was passed.
That’s over doubled the cost.


30 posted on 08/11/2016 11:21:30 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Red Badger

IMHO everything tht has been, is, and will be written about the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare) starts with a false premise.

The authors of this act did NOT intend for it to be successful. That’s right it was designed, written, and executed to be a failure. So, from that view point it has been a smashing success!

ObamaCare was an intermediate step designed to forceful ably transition America’s healthcare system from a free market model to a one payer pays all system like all Socialist based healthcare systems.

The people involved in its development took a fairly successful system which they had no control over and replaced with a failed design which they controlled from start (birth) to end (death).

Bottom-line:
It was never about healthcare it was always about control.


31 posted on 08/11/2016 11:24:48 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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"believed for a long time in government-involved healthcare."

What do you propose? Leave people in the streets to die, or maybe make it a law that all healthcare providers have to provide their services and just adsorb the cost? Just curious.
32 posted on 08/11/2016 11:26:08 AM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- winner)
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To: JimSEA

My medical expenses have not changed in 5 years. Close to zero in 5 years. I am in my 11th year on Medicare. My medicine is 1 hour total walk at brisk pace every day, almost no red meat, lots and lots of fruits and vegetables, no smoking, 1 glass of Riesling in any one day. Only medication i take is Lisinopril 10 mg, which costs me 40 cents for 3 month supply at Walmart. yes that is cents, not dollars.


33 posted on 08/11/2016 11:26:27 AM PDT by entropy12 (The never Trumpsters are either Globalists or perma-neocons.)
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To: Red Badger

Freepers should go through the comments on the Hill article, they are mostly commenting like Sam Adams wild right now. A Trump tsunami is coming.


34 posted on 08/11/2016 11:30:13 AM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016)
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To: Red Badger

I would think that the key date is not the date the sign up talleys are due but rather the date that the consumers sign up for coverage. That’s the date the sticker shock hits.


35 posted on 08/11/2016 11:46:25 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Red Badger

Planned that way.


36 posted on 08/11/2016 11:47:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Red Badger

“Possible”? The Hill is a joke.


37 posted on 08/11/2016 11:51:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Mr. Douglas

And it don’t rain
in Indianapolis
In the summer time

There’s no such thing as Dr. Seuss
Disneyland
or Mother Goose
There’s no nursery rhymes...


38 posted on 08/11/2016 12:01:11 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: JoSixChip
What do you propose? Leave people in the streets to die, or maybe make it a law that all healthcare providers have to provide their services and just adsorb the cost? Just curious.

I believe in market-driven healthcare. We have an existing "government-run" healthcare system: Medicare. And it is rife with abuse and inefficiency. It is corrupt, and wastes BILLIONS of tax dollars every year. For that matter, The VA is "government-run" healthcare - also corrupt and inefficient. The horror stories we hear about veteran's care...we should all be ashamed that we let our government treat so poorly those who have served.

There is not one solution that will provide good care to every single citizen, but I believe that market-driven healthcare policies will result in more people covered and more choices for healthcare consumers. Health insurers are constrained by a lot of government red tape. Our government can loosen the rules and allow more competition - across state lines, for example. Again, there is no single solution on healthcare or health insurance. But I trust the market and consumers to make good decisions. Any government plan (like Medicare and the VA), regardless of good intentions, eventually becomes a bargaining chip for politicians.

Regarding your comment, "Leave people in the streets to die," - ask the families of some VA-insured patients who pretty much were left to die waiting for care.

39 posted on 08/11/2016 12:01:19 PM PDT by floozy22 (Paul RINO Ryan 2016: "In the bag for The Hag")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Obamacare has never been sustainable.

It was intended to be a ticking time-bomb from the very beginning.
40 posted on 08/11/2016 12:08:54 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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