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When is a Ransom Not a Ransom? When it's Inconvenient to Call it That
townhall.com ^ | 8/5/2016 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 08/05/2016 6:54:19 AM PDT by rktman

The White House concedes that it all looks very bad. But it insists this was in no way a ransom payment; the trout got in the milk for perfectly normal reasons. You see, the Iranians were suing for funds deposited with the Pentagon in 1979 for a weapons purchase that was later blocked when the ayatollahs deposed the Shah. The $400 million wasn't a ransom; it was simply the first installment of a $1.7 billion dollar settlement of that dispute. "We would not, we have not, we will not pay ransom to secure the release of U.S. citizens," top White House flack Josh Earnest insisted. That the money was delivered to coincide with the release of our hostages is little more than a funny coincidence.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coincidence; iran; iransom; movealong; obama; ransom; rop
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To: TennTuxedo

Yeah. Maybe he should be impeached. Oh! About 7 years too late for that. Lucky for us the “conservatives” control both houses huh. Don’t you feel safer now? Me neither.


21 posted on 08/05/2016 8:27:50 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: blueunicorn6

Actually, if it were ransom, that would at least have a positive side. I believe that the vast majority of the “misplaced” money was “misplaced” into Hitlery’s pocket. Either directly or via the Clinton Crime Foundation. What didn’t go there, went to various liberal causes, in particular Hitlery’s presidential campaign.


22 posted on 08/05/2016 1:24:31 PM PDT by generally
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To: circlecity

This is incontrovertible proof that Obama is facilitating global terrorism.”

yes


23 posted on 08/05/2016 2:16:41 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: MGG

I think there are three issues here.

First, it was roughly 2 billion dollars held by the US since the fall of the Shah’s gov’t and the original hostage crisis. At some point, we had to release the money. To have allowed this to continue on...for decades? It was stupid. It’s not US money....just Iranian money which was sitting in US banks.

Second, if the money had transferred by wire....US bank to Iranian bank....then this would have been a open and transparent process. To go and sneak four hundred million out of some bank....load it on a pallet and fly it somewhere....you look like a money-laundering operation or a mafia-thug unit. This was one-star government ethics at work.

Third, I’d go and grab a dozen Americans tomorrow if I were the Iranians and get the WH to deliver more cash. Whoever it was in the WH staff who recommended this stupid maneuver....ought to be fired. My humble guess is that it’s the same guy who advocated Bergdahl’s release, which also involved cash (anyone forgetting the deal, go back and review how that worked).


24 posted on 08/05/2016 11:35:09 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: rktman

Semantics. War with words.

*Of course* it’s a ransom.


25 posted on 08/06/2016 12:47:24 AM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery)
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To: rktman

Not only did we give them $400 MILLION of Our Tax Dollars, but they got 7 REALLY BAD GUYS ALSO....iirc.


26 posted on 08/06/2016 4:45:06 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: pepsionice

Hmmmm. Is it just past due hotel charges for ‘entertaining’ our citizens from the embassy until Reagan took office? :-)


27 posted on 08/06/2016 5:03:25 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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"Nice deal........I get half of that donated to my tax-exempt foundation.
Another chunk goes to my presidential library's "Muslim Prayer Room."

28 posted on 08/06/2016 5:45:03 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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According to the Boobambas, the $400 million represented:

<><>(1) the first installment of a $1.7 billion settlement the Obama administration reached with Iran to resolve a decades-old dispute over a failed arms deal signed just before the 1979 fall of Iran’s last monarch, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi ( only Valerie---a onetime Iranian resident---would know that). The Boobambas said the $400 million "resolved claims" before an international tribunal in The Hague to make it sound more legit.

<><> (2) the $400 million also coincided with the formal implementation that same weekend of the landmark nuclear agreement reached between Tehran, the U.S. and other global powers the summer before. “With the Iran nuclear deal done, and,

<><> (3) "coincidentally," the $400 million was delivered as US prisoners were set to be released.

HO, HUM. AMERICAN PRISONERS JUST AN AFTERTHOUGHT: "The time was right to resolve the prisoner dispute.... as well,” Obama said on Jan. 17—without disclosing the $400 million cash payment.

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Dollars to donuts the language seen here is being used to cadge huge donations earmarked for M/M O's post-presidency get-rich-quick plans.

The dangers to US ntl security were apparent when the Clintons used foreign policy initiatives for foundation fund-raising.

Taxpayers demand to see donation solicitation letters sent out by the various Obama fund-raising entities....his 2 foundations and library fund.

Valerie's the one that wrrits this crap......taxpayers demand to see wire-transfers in and out of Valerie's office.

And if Obama receives donations from Iran, Taxpayers demand his foundations and library fund be closed down.

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GOVERTNMENT FRAUD AT ITS FINEST---a get-rich-quick plan.

Obama's federal giveaways (that we know of). Priming the Obama
foundations pumps---giveaway tax dollars now --collect donations later
:

<><> $150 billion to Muslim Iran in the nuclear deal...plus the latest handout

<><> $2 billion to help half-brother Malik advance his organization---the Muslim Brotherhood,

<><> $50 million to Malik/Barack's tax-exempt foundation in the form of a grant to Muslim Kenya.

<><> While the Muslim Brotherhood was in charge in Egypt, Obama (and Hillary) showered them w/ praise.....and billions of US dollars in aid, arms, tanks and planes. Payback is coming due.

<><> Obama gave $90 million US tax dollars to wealthy oil-rich Muslim African countries.

<><> the missing billions attached to Obamacare.

<><> Obama gave Michelle seventy-three million tax dollars to teach Muslim girls in Qatar

<><> Obama gave Michelle 100 million tax dollars to teach Muslim girls in Morocco.

29 posted on 08/06/2016 5:59:30 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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