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Smoke billows from jetliner after crash-landing
CBS/AP ^ | Aug 3, 2016

Posted on 08/03/2016 4:54:30 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

DUBAI -- An Emirates flight from India with 300 people on board, including 6 Americans, crash landed at Dubai's main airport on Wednesday, sending black smoke billowing into the air and halting all traffic at the Middle East's busiest airport. Authorities said all passengers were evacuated safely.

Dubai-based Emirates said the accident happened around 12:45 p.m. local time as Flight EK521 was arriving from the southern Indian city of Thiruvananthapuram.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 777; airliner; aviation; boeing; crashlanding; dubai; ek521; emirates; emirates521; fire; india; plane; smoke; thiruvananthapuram; uae
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To: rjsimmon

Isn’t she Jennifer Aniston?


21 posted on 08/03/2016 8:39:34 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: USNBandit

I seem to recall that the autothrottle was unintentionally disengaged for the SFO incident. If so, I wouldn’t call that a malfunction, pilot error instead.


22 posted on 08/03/2016 9:25:47 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Moonman62

Bad on Boeing for not making the autothrottle system idiot proof.


23 posted on 08/03/2016 9:37:30 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: pfflier

There are a number of ways to dump out of autos on the 737. I don’t know how different the auto throttles on the 777 are. The initial reports looked like he clicked in and out of auto throttles several times on the final approach.


24 posted on 08/03/2016 9:51:06 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit
“The dreaded visual approach,” can be quite scary if one is used to having “George” fly the airplane to 200’ every time!
25 posted on 08/03/2016 10:02:00 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Not so bad, we abbreviate it “TP.” Reminds us of the local conditions


26 posted on 08/03/2016 10:03:48 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I am so glad I don’t live in Thiruvananthapuram.

You won't believe how long their zip code is...

27 posted on 08/03/2016 10:13:34 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: USNBandit

If the B-777 autothrottle is used during a manual landing, thrust is automatically reduced to idle at 25’ radio altitude if the pitch mode is “vertical speed,” “Glide slope” or any Vertical nav mode. This could have happened while over the water if they were that low. (Conjecture)
Most likely the A/Ts were OFF.

If the A/T switches are off, they prevent any autothrottle engagement. These switches are on the mode control panel just below the glare shield, visible and reachable by both pilots. To “click in,” these switches must be used.

My hunch is that the pilots in this case, Asiana-(SFO), were as weak in system knowledge as they were in visual approaches.
The autoflight systems on the 777 are complex and any weaknesses, on the part of the pilots, are magnified and can result in a disaster. Add cultural problems such as being reluctant to cause another to “lose face” if corrective suggestions are made and the recipe is complete.


28 posted on 08/03/2016 11:15:34 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Moonman62

Wasn’t aware of that one. Looking at the cockpit photos, yes indeed they were lucky it was at the gate and not in the air.

Due to that incident, now all oxygen supply hoses must now be non-electrically conductive as they suspected a short circuit through an oxygen hose from missing wire holders.


29 posted on 08/03/2016 12:07:33 PM PDT by OA5599
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To: dfwgator

...Where disco lives.


30 posted on 08/03/2016 4:48:02 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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