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U.S. ordered to lower Navy sonar levels to protect whales
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 16, 2016 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 07/16/2016 4:02:49 PM PDT by artichokegrower

U.S. officials have wrongly allowed the Navy to use sonar at levels that could harm whales and other marine mammals in the world’s oceans, a federal appeals court in San Francisco has ruled.

The decision Friday by the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals would scale back the Navy’s use of low-frequency sonar in the Atlantic, Pacific and Indian oceans and the Mediterranean Sea under authority that was granted in 2012.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; lawsuit; marinebiology; nationalsecurity; ruling; savethewhales; sonar; usnavy
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Hope the Chinese don't hear about this
1 posted on 07/16/2016 4:02:49 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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but it’s ok to kill 4200 bald eagles a year


2 posted on 07/16/2016 4:05:10 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: artichokegrower

Our enemies are laughing at us, and our allies are embarrassed for us.

5.56mm


3 posted on 07/16/2016 4:06:38 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: artichokegrower

So our brave Navy members should give away a huge advantage for the sake of whales???

GRRR! ~ Stupidity is re-defined every day by the US Armed Forces...


4 posted on 07/16/2016 4:08:17 PM PDT by heterosupremacist ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: artichokegrower

How were they harmed?

Harmed like the US children dying of tuberculosis,
and EV-D68?

Harmed like the children raped by Islamic terrorists,
who are THEN protected and released by Crooked Lynch
and Crooked Comey?


5 posted on 07/16/2016 4:08:31 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: artichokegrower

Uh, huh.


6 posted on 07/16/2016 4:13:08 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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To: artichokegrower

Tell the whales to evolve.


7 posted on 07/16/2016 4:14:53 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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The protected zones showed a “bias toward U.S. waters,” the court said, with several zones on the Atlantic and Pacific coasts of the United States but none on the Pacific coast of South America and only a scattered few in other waters.

That's because US waters are the limit of US jurisdiction, judge.

Also, there's this thing - the National Defense Act? It has some authority in this matter, too.

8 posted on 07/16/2016 4:17:36 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Diogenesis

Hell yeah!!!!!!!
Forget the kids being raped and molested!!!

SAVE THE WHALES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


9 posted on 07/16/2016 4:18:15 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: artichokegrower

“The result is that a meaningful proportion of the world‘s marine mammal habitat is under-protected,” Judge Ronald Gould said in the 3-0 ruling, which would also set standards for future renewals of the program. He said the government had failed to comply with a law that requires it to make sure its peacetime oceanic programs have “the least practicable adverse impact on marine mammals.”

Naturally, the Russians and Chinese are following suit ...


10 posted on 07/16/2016 4:25:18 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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i agree.... but:

it’s not the whales - it’s the ))))merpeoples(((((

ht to animal planet...


11 posted on 07/16/2016 4:30:53 PM PDT by sdpatriot ("Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.")
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“you can’t make up such as that, I dare you to even try”


12 posted on 07/16/2016 4:34:48 PM PDT by hardspunned
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To: artichokegrower

Ignore them and crank up the dial.


13 posted on 07/16/2016 4:35:07 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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I assume all the other Navies of the world will comply also.


14 posted on 07/16/2016 4:35:55 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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No one is asking the right questions, such as:

What level is required for the mission?
Is there benefits in learning to master low level sonar?
Is there an optimal sonar frequency or power level that accomplishes the mission without harming marine life?

We should find a way to navigate without destroying the ear drums of all sea life within miles of a sonar ping.


15 posted on 07/16/2016 4:43:49 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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“you can’t make up such as that, I dare you to even try”

They already sued trying to have the NAVY’s use of SONAR prohibited.

They lost.

Now they have it diminished.

We will tolerate it

We tolerate most everything now days.

“It’s who we are”.


16 posted on 07/16/2016 4:54:33 PM PDT by Captain7seas (UNexit. Make America Great Again!)
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To: hardspunned

The greenies have been trying to shut down the Navy’s active sonar for decades and have finally succeeded. Russian and Chinese subs have new friends in green places.


17 posted on 07/16/2016 5:05:48 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: headstamp 2

I’m guessing Iran bought some new subs and Obie wants to make sure they can cruise on by into Cuba undetected.


18 posted on 07/16/2016 5:36:55 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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North Korea fires submarine-based ballistic missile: South Korea

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/09/asia/north-korea-submarine-missile/

Wish they could aim it right for the Ninth District court room


19 posted on 07/16/2016 5:40:37 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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Only a matter of time before that fat bastard in Pyongyang orders the Norks to start making subs in the shape of whales.


20 posted on 07/16/2016 5:46:27 PM PDT by Stosh
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