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Russian mafia 'increasingly active' in Germany
TheLocal.de ^ | 11 Jul 2016 15:28 GMT+02:00

Posted on 07/11/2016 10:27:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The Russian mafia is becoming “increasingly active” in Germany, with networks recruiting in German prisons and groups bringing in billions of euros each year, Germany’s Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) has warned.

“The Russian-Eurasian organized criminality is very dynamic,” BKA President Holger Münch told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper. “They are already expanding in the west.”

One of the most dangerous groups, according to Münch, is the so-called “Thieves in law” (Diebe im Gesetz) gang, founded in Stalin’s labor camps. The group from the former Soviet Union have their own “laws” and a secret language, and is thought to be recruiting from within Germany’s prisons.

The BKA has previously linked 20,000 and 40,000 people in Germany to the group, and authorities believe that its members in Germany today represent “a five-figure number” — only rough estimates are possible due to the clandestine nature of the groups. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Russia
KEYWORDS: crime; diebeimgesetz; eurasianunion; eussr; germany; russia; russianmafia; thievesinlaw

1 posted on 07/11/2016 10:27:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

No surprise. Wait until their new citizens start going toe to toe with the gangs.


2 posted on 07/11/2016 10:39:12 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Olog-hai

I think this gang was a part of the 2,000 men who sexually assaulted women on New Year’s Eve, right? /$


3 posted on 07/11/2016 10:47:20 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Donald Trump will ban auto-correct with an Executive Order. Go Trump!)
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To: Olog-hai

Not sure how you define Mafia. I have a proposition that all governments are just the ruling Mafia. Or at least they are all on a continuum from public servant to Mafia. Russian government is 98% mafia and 2% public servant. Swiss government is 90% public servant and 10% mafia. The US is moving close to 50/50.
Other criminal enterprises are just out of power mafia. Like a shadow government.


4 posted on 07/11/2016 10:48:54 PM PDT by poinq
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To: Olog-hai

40,000 is a staggering number for a criminal organization that isnot a street gang (like bloods, crips etc)

At its PEAK, the Italian mafia in America only had 5,000 made men.


5 posted on 07/11/2016 11:28:21 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

I think the 40,000 number is over-hyped.

Most drug sales in Germany today lead to North African or Albanian gangs. There might be some Russian guys at the very top who import or drive the stuff to distribute.

In the region of Germany where I live....we have a large trend of stolen cars....but based on a couple of arrests that they’ve made....it’s typical Bulgarian or Moldovan guys arrested as the pick-up people. Again...maybe at the top, there is some Russian guy who arranges for transport out of Germany, but it’s probably just one or two in each region running this part.

For hookers and pimps....it’s mostly Romanian women now in the hooker trade in Germany. There might be a few Russians as pimps but it’s a nickel and dime trade these days.


6 posted on 07/12/2016 12:43:46 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Interesting. Thanks

you hvae any street gangs there? like bloods, latin kings equivalent?


7 posted on 07/12/2016 1:37:53 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

Organized gangs like what you see in the US....no.

You have some Russian mafia units....some Bulgarian and Gypsy-type gangs (mostly into break-in’s and small time theft), and then some North African groups which do the drug sales in urbanized cities (Koln as an example). You just don’t have the drug usage scale like you see in the US.

Even for black-market cigarette sales....it’s not really a gang situation which markets them or transports them across the border....mostly just private guys who make a connection with a couple of pub fronts or private gas stations.


8 posted on 07/12/2016 3:38:38 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Olog-hai

How hard could it be to deport Russian nationals who have no visible means of support (but drive around in S class Mercedeses)?


9 posted on 07/12/2016 3:48:25 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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“How hard could it be to deport Russian nationals who have no visible means of support (but drive around in S class Mercedeses)?”

Some of them have German surnames - they’re descendants of Aussiedlers (Germans who emigrated to Russia in the 1700s)
and so can claim a right to German citizenship. Once in, it’s almost impossible to deport them. http://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/bayern/So-herrscht-die-Russen-Mafia-im-Gefaengnis-id6990716.html Another subset is Russian Jews. No one will deport them either because it would look soooooo bad. Mikhail Rabo was a prime example of that: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3559177,00.html


10 posted on 07/12/2016 4:59:49 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

Thanks for the links! Wasn’t considering that angle.


11 posted on 07/12/2016 8:02:26 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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