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You Carry Every Day. Do You Know What to do if You’re Pulled Over?
Bearing Arms ^ | 9 Jul, 2016 | Jenn Jacques

Posted on 07/10/2016 7:39:06 AM PDT by MtnClimber

It’s happened to most of us – some more than others. You’re driving down the highway or a backroad or maybe you roll through a stop sign one too many times, and here they come. The flashing lights, the piercing sound of the siren. It’s nerve-racking, to say the least.

With so much tension surrounding recent officer-involved shootings, I feel a duty to open the discussion on what to do when legal gun owners either open or concealed carrying are pulled over by police.

No matter what state you find yourself in, national firearms expert and trainer Massad Ayoob explains there is a universal way to inform the officer you’re carrying: hand your concealed carry permit over with your drivers license.

(Excerpt) Read more at bearingarms.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; ayoob; banglist; ccw
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To: cyn

A lady in my building told me of her experience pulled over by a cop in - was it VA? or OH? - anyway, she was respectful, as was the cop. I don’t recall all the minutiae of their conversation, but as she handed over the gun at his request, he checked & opined that it was better to carry with a round in the pipe. Or it was some other be-ready-to-shoot-at-a-moment’s notice bit of wisdom, meant to contradict her carrying condition.

Minutes later when he returned to hand back her license + citation + handgun, the jerk gave back the weapon in pieces. I guess he was only *so* committed to life-saving defense for a road-tripping female.

That said, I’ve only handled interactions w/ LEOs in a respectful manner. (Had a bit of a lead foot in my younger days. Now I leave myself more time to get to work.) Hands or wrists on the wheel, fingers pulling out license/registration or visibly fumbling at it. I’m harmless to you, Mr. Leo.

Most have been professional & polite, tho there’s been the occasional snarky bastard. I quietly endure the tongue-lashing from the self-righteous jerks, accepting that it usually is the price they exact for not writing up a ticket that would later affect my insurance. *shrug* I’m a self-serving coward, but my premiums are low. ;o)

P.S. Back in the 90s, my car broke down on the hwy as I was trying to get home from work. Cop who called me a wrecker invited me to take refuge in his car. Was already sitting there before I remembered the little pistol at the small of my back. Kept damn mouth shut. Survived the night. Disagree w/ obligation to inform. My state requires it. I took the class but couldn’t make myself go thru w/ registering w/ the state for the ‘legal’ right to defend my person. So while I might carry Constitutionally upon occasion, I’m technically breaking the law.


141 posted on 07/12/2016 1:25:51 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: MtnClimber

Thank you for posting this. I have had a CCW for over 14 years, renewed it three times, and this is always good review.


142 posted on 07/12/2016 6:09:19 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: Titan Magroyne

Thanks for passing along that info/experiences! It is greatly appreciated.

Being drawn on was an eye-opener, as I’d complied with all instructions. What more does one need to do? Avoidance is key.

I’m still considering “best”/ least troublesome (trouble making!) approaches.

I’d concluded in the past that one of the best approaches is to have known 2a lawyer on speed dial, which that 2a forum also accomplished for me, as have Friends of NRA events.


143 posted on 07/12/2016 9:19:20 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: cyn

ie, (LEAST trouble-making?!)


144 posted on 07/12/2016 9:20:43 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: bankwalker

Right! which is understandable, but not helpful. The partner clearly did not agree, but demurred, even in the retelling.

See also #141, unbelievable.


145 posted on 07/12/2016 9:24:03 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: Windflier

No. Your laws in Texas are different than from here in Georgia.


146 posted on 07/13/2016 7:17:43 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: clamper1797

Those forms are NOT delivered to the government unless they have a warrant for a SPECIFIC serialized weapon which they have a legitimate reason to believe it was used in a crime.

The serial number (if they have the weapon) gets tracked to the manufacturer and then to the seller, and then, with a warrant gets the buyer’s information.

This is always abused by the ATF, but that’s what the Federal Statutes say.


147 posted on 07/13/2016 7:21:11 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Laws have nothing to do with how you conduct yourself when being questioned by the police. You’re insisting that a flip answer to a cop’s query about weapons is A-ok because your police chief said it. That’s just dumb.

Go ahead and roll with that, but you’ll be creating unnecessary tension and raising the danger level, if you ever speak to an officer that way.


148 posted on 07/13/2016 9:32:13 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

Your opinion. I’m telling you what the law says they can’t do.


149 posted on 07/13/2016 10:17:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

“Your opinion. I’m telling you what the law says they can’t do.”

Who’s talking about the law? I haven’t challenged Georgia law a single time in this conversation.

What I’ve challenged, is the wisdom of smarting off to a police officer about what weapons you’re carrying, if he asks you that question during a traffic stop.

If you’re a law abiding citizen, you and the cop are natural allies. Why disturb that quiet understanding by displaying a surly attitude? That serves no one.


150 posted on 07/13/2016 11:01:00 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: wgmalabama
Cops need to refocus on the protect and serve.

They are only required to follow the directives of their employer. That employer is the government entity that pays their salaries. You are incidental to the whole transaction.

151 posted on 07/13/2016 11:45:43 AM PDT by Stentor (Free the Rosenbergs--Oh wait. Nevermind.)
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To: Jaxter
I had a misspent youth and had a weakness for fast cars. ;)

Apparently your cars were not fast enough. I was in a Ford Mondeo on the M1 in England in the 90s doing about 70 when what I think was a Lamborghini flashed by in a wink of an eye. I'd guess over 120 but maybe more.

152 posted on 07/13/2016 12:01:13 PM PDT by Stentor (Free the Rosenbergs--Oh wait. Nevermind.)
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To: Windflier

Just let them do what they damned well please then, huh?


153 posted on 07/13/2016 1:00:15 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

It’s obvious that I’m not getting through to you. That’s ok. Go on and be right. Just don’t be dead right.


154 posted on 07/13/2016 1:41:49 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

good analysis on your part.

https://twitter.com/WesleyLowery/status/753043910860169220/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


155 posted on 07/13/2016 5:12:20 PM PDT by stylin19a
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