Posted on 07/08/2016 6:45:53 AM PDT by Kaslin
Sickening, isn’t it? When you think of the pantheon of Christian warriors - Alfred the Great, Charles Martel, Jon Don, Horatio Nelson and a thousand others - you gotta wonder where we went wrong. Where’s our Cromwell and New Model Army?
I am so blessed. Since becoming a Christian, I’ve attended about 4 churches through my life where I considered myself a member. (usually about 10 years at each) I can’t think of too many instances where the leaders acted in a pansy fashion. What I do see among the younger men and women though is a serious lack of testosterone.
They argue online for liberal beliefs or a form of nihilism, yet claim to be believers.
One is currently arguing with a friend of mine that since Clarence Thomas was found not guilty or harassment and Clinton had charges dropped, she’s not guilty too. What a mental midget trying to make that correlation.
I live in a liberal state. We have a local pastor who does a short daily radio commentary on a talk station. He doesn’t back down at all.
AMEN!
He means "reluctant."
A church leader can be strong and clear on issues and never mention an official or person by name. It’s astounding, for instance, how little church people know about abortion. So describe it and ask people to vote for life.
I don’t care much for pulpits focused on current events and issues. Mike Adams searched until he found one focused on anti-abortion and anti-progessivism and he was happy. That’s how I’m reading him anyway. In person, I expect he’d explain himself better.
In my opinion, the whole counsel of God equals the entire bible. An honest pastor going through the bible will not find occasion each week to bash the progressivist liberals.
Believe it or not there’s lots of other issues addressed in the bible. Sometimes anti-abortion fits directly, sometimes it might fit as an illustration of another issue, but lots of times it doesn’t fit at all.
At some point we have to be honest with the bible. Forcing every passage into our political sentiments is us telling the bible what to teach.
Well there's your problem right there.
Greg Laurie has a special gift from God, which is to be able to preach to the lost rather than to the choir.
Many churches are becoming laodicean.
Don’t forget the standard liberal line, “Jesus was a liberal”.
I do not think Adams was saying that he wanted to see more politics in his church. But generally speaking, people who are politically liberal tend to be theologically liberal. Subjects like abortion and sex outside marriage are theological/moral issues that resonate politically, but are not strictly political.
Jesus was neither liberal or conservative.
And dead spiritual wise.
See my #26 about this article.
That said, this article is not about Greg Laurie. I’ve never heard him preach or been to one of his events. I hope to some day.
Luke 12 is heavy duty. It’s actually overwhelming in it’s bluntness.
Scouts Out!
I imagine he’d explain himself better in person. He gave the impression in this article that anti-progessivism was the focus of his church search. In my opinion.
>>Why go to church if it’s no different than the secular world?
If you’re a Christian, I believe you should do the soul-searching you need to figure out where you belong. Currently, I belong to a VERY liberal congregation. I feel called to be there. Because I’m liberal? Absolutely not. I frequently consider moving to a church that is more in line with my beliefs. But I think I have been called to help the people at my church. For a long time, it was just general support of those in need, but now I feel my calling is to educate them.
Liberals who know me are always surprised to find out I am a conservative. (”But you’re so NICE!”) They think of all conservatives as “haters.” I have been involved in more than one discussion that turned to the “evils of the tea party.” When I ask how many tea partiers they know, the answer is always none. Then I tell them they know at least one: me. They are shocked. Because they base their attitudes on the echo chamber of liberalism and media that they are immersed in, not in facts, experience, or data.
We have a brand new ultra liberal minister who has been giving lots of sermons about racism recently. Always about how put upon blacks are and slavery, slavery, slavery. I am not afraid to speak up and educate him. But I will do so in a polite, Christian, conservative manner. I pray for strength to do so without losing my temper.
This Sunday should prove interesting.
I never heard of ANY mainline christian denomination refusing money from anyone?
So not sure what your point is?
Non-denominational churches run the gamut being outright fraud charlatans to some of the most active, fearless proclaimers of the gospel...
One of the reason they are non-denominational is they aren't under the thumb of some liberal hierarchy of men dictating what they can or cannot preach from the pulpit...
“He gave the impression in this article that anti-progessivism was the focus of his church search. In my opinion.”
I’m still not quite grasping why this would impugn him. Are there not a host of issues within progressivism -as a worldview- that are strongly anti-Christian? Will these theological differences not obviously translate into political differences?
Sometimes the bible can offer a broader view on an issue, too, than we might think it deserves.
We see the abortion problem today and say eek! let’s concentrate on it because it’s such a distinct, obvious evil. But it’s rooted in a larger problem, one that we might be inclined — polite people not nosing into anyone else’s business and not wanting anyone to nose into ours as we are — to overlook.
The lament that closes out the Old Testament seems to be key here. The hearts of the “fathers” need to be turned to the “sons” and vice versa, or the Lord will strike the land with a curse. Have not even Christian families grown more distant within, as we think of it as something like Dr. Dobson vs. Dr. Spock, rather than Jesus Christ against the devil?
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