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Michael Mann, scientist: Data 'increasingly unnecessary' because 'we can see climate change'
Washington Times ^ | June 27, 2016 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 06/28/2016 1:15:41 PM PDT by Zakeet

Leading climate doomsayer Michael Mann recently downplayed the importance of climate change science, telling Democrats that data and models "increasingly are unnecessary" because the impact is obvious.

"Fundamentally, I'm a climate scientist and have spent much of my career with my head buried in climate-model output and observational climate data trying to tease out the signal of human-caused climate change," Mr. Mann told the Democratic Platform Drafting Committee at a hearing.

"What is disconcerting to me and so many of my colleagues is that these tools that we've spent years developing increasingly are unnecessary because we can see climate change, the impacts of climate change, now, playing out in real time, on our television screens, in the 24-hour news cycle," he said.

Mr. Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State University, spoke before the committee June 17 in Phoenix.

His comment drew hoots from climate skeptics, including the website Greenie Watch, which posted his comment under the headline, "'Scientist' Michael Mann says there is no need for statistics: You can just SEE global warming."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; environment; globalwarming; michaelmann
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To: Zakeet

We don’t need data anymore because we all agree the science is settled.

Wow. That makes the skull-bump analyzers in the 19th century look like wizards of scientific method.


21 posted on 06/28/2016 1:23:22 PM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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To: Zakeet
“Fundamentally, I’m a climate scientist and have spent much of my career with my head buried in climate-model output..."

Your head has indeed been buried sir but not necessarily in climate model output.
22 posted on 06/28/2016 1:23:35 PM PDT by 762X51
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To: EQAndyBuzz
...trying to tease out the signal of human-caused climate change

Sounds more like superstition than science.

23 posted on 06/28/2016 1:23:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If the Orlando terrorist does not represent all Muslims, why does he represent all gun-owners?)
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To: Zakeet
You bad old Freepers don't need any data ... because you'll just use it to disprove the facts that we have already established as true!

Just like this bozo, who I assume is also a man of the LEFT.

Federal Judge: U.S. Constitution Is Outdated, Judges Should Stop Studying It

"FACTS" are so messy to the left.
24 posted on 06/28/2016 1:24:05 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Zakeet

Climate change isn’t dangerous, it’s always happened and will continue.

What’s dangerous is the idea that the climate can be run better by government than by nature.


25 posted on 06/28/2016 1:24:06 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns.)
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To: Zakeet

OK, Mr. (not Dr.) Mann, what IS the optimum temperature for Earth? What IS the perfect number of storms and lightning strikes? What is the exact amount of rain and snow that should fall? Now, what is all that in every season and in every location on the planet?

You can’t decide if CHANGE is good or bad unless you know what the ideal is.

Obama promised CHANGE. You assumed that it would be good. He changed America away from the ideal, so it is bad. If you are too stupid to see that change away from freedom is bad, then why should be accept anything you say on something as complicated as climate.


26 posted on 06/28/2016 1:24:42 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Zakeet

Come to think of it, I just thought of a good use for that ‘hockey stick’.


27 posted on 06/28/2016 1:25:35 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Fungi

Was he the author of the e-mail that said “We’ve got to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period”? If not, I’m sure he agreed with the sentiment.

If he were to tell me “we don’t need data, we can see climate change” I would reply “Damn right. If the climate keeps getting warmer, pretty soon Vikings will be able to raise cattle in Greenland. Just like they did a thousand years ago.”


28 posted on 06/28/2016 1:26:05 PM PDT by henkster (Don't listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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To: cyclotic

Translated: “let’s not look at the data because we know it’s crap”.


29 posted on 06/28/2016 1:26:20 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Zakeet

Voodoo science, from a witch doctor.

Prosecute me.

5.56mm


30 posted on 06/28/2016 1:26:52 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Zakeet

Data is just a form of white microaggression.


31 posted on 06/28/2016 1:27:41 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Zakeet

He’s just taking a break from counting angels dancing on the head of a pin. A “scientist”, indeed!


32 posted on 06/28/2016 1:27:52 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: Zakeet

Somebody should ask Mann what he thinks of the work of Jan Esper (Esper et al 2006, 2012, 2015) and than watch his head explode.

Mann is a joke...


33 posted on 06/28/2016 1:28:17 PM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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To: Zakeet

So does this mean weather is climate now???

But what this really means is all their models are crap because they’ve been wrong every single time.


34 posted on 06/28/2016 1:29:25 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Zakeet

Michael Mann, idiot. I can’t see climate change as predicted by Al Gore, who famously said the eastern seaboard would be inundated by the Atlantic within ten years... and that was said much more than ten years ago. I can’t see any change in the sea level, let alone Manhattan under water.


35 posted on 06/28/2016 1:29:52 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Zakeet

yes science without data or facts...that’s the ticket.


36 posted on 06/28/2016 1:30:03 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Zakeet

Wow.

These atheists make fun of Christians because we take it on faith.

No databases from an atheist?

I’d call him a faithextremist.


37 posted on 06/28/2016 1:31:00 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Evict the Establishment. Evict 0bama. Evict the Clintoons.)
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To: Zakeet
trying to tease out the signal of human-caused climate change

That's not science. A bold-faced confession, as anyone who knows anything about science can see.

38 posted on 06/28/2016 1:31:24 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The polls can have a strong influence on the weak-minded)
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To: Zakeet

“Who you gonna believe? Me? Or your own lyin’ eyes?”


39 posted on 06/28/2016 1:32:03 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Zakeet

No real scientist would ever say that selected anecdotal evidence is proof of anything.


40 posted on 06/28/2016 1:32:11 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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