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Orlando Shooter Raised Suspicion at Gun Shops
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 16, 2016 | Charles Passy, Josh Mitchell and Laura Stevens

Posted on 06/16/2016 8:18:11 AM PDT by TroutStalker

JENSEN BEACH, Fla.— Omar Mateen visited a gun shop in this town near his home about five or six weeks ago. His request: heavy-duty body armor—rated IIIA, the sort typically used by law enforcement—and bulk ammunition.

While at the store, Mateen had a phone conversation in which he appeared to be speaking in a Middle Eastern language, according to Robbie Abell, the co-owner of the store, Lotus Gunworks of South Florida. Staffers also noticed him texting on his phone.

Mateen “just seemed very odd,” Mr. Abell said. “The questions he was asking [about body armor] were not the normal questions a normal person would be asking.”

Lotus Gunworks doesn’t carry armor. Employees declined to sell Mateen bulk ammunition, turning him away. “If something is suspicious, it’s our discretion,” Mr. Abell said. “We are the gatekeeper.”

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Susanne Coburn Laforest, a 61-year-old retired corrections offer and former classmate of Mateen, didn’t recall his comments regarding Virginia Tech. She said he threatened to shoot his classmates at the cookout—which she said was held on a gun range—after his hamburger touched pork.

He “flipped out,” she said, told people not to laugh at him and said “he was going to come back and shoot us,” she recalled.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bandlist; banglist; halal; mateen; orlando; pork
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To: hoosiermama

Yes, my question exactly.


21 posted on 06/16/2016 8:39:49 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so that others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: hoosiermama
-- Why didn't this gun shop notify FBI ? --

That's a sure fire way to get attention from the govenment, on your own actions. No thanks. Turn the guy away. Suspecting an Arabic or black person of bad intentions is racist.

22 posted on 06/16/2016 8:42:02 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Better pull all those FBI agents looking into Hitlery’s email and send them pronto to Orlando to harass this gun store owner.

Failure to do so would be “contrary to our values as Americans” according to Obungo.


23 posted on 06/16/2016 8:44:14 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: BipolarBob

I think I would like the bacon test— maybe a bacon cheeseburger.. pulled pork with bacon idk..


24 posted on 06/16/2016 8:44:34 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: Drango

Don’t forget the Cross, there are vampires out there you know???


25 posted on 06/16/2016 8:48:29 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: hoosiermama

“Why didn’t this gun shop notify FBI ?

Let the Feds sort it out!”

Yep...could’ve called the FBI Hotline...1-800-WeDontCair.


26 posted on 06/16/2016 8:52:24 AM PDT by moovova
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To: BipolarBob

“It is illegal to discriminate against race, color, religion or national orgin BUT nothing prevents the gun shop from instituting a mandatory bacon test before sales can be completed.”

I guess Jews aren’t allowed to defend themselves?


27 posted on 06/16/2016 8:53:55 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: TroutStalker
after his hamburger touched pork.

When I make burgers, it's always 1 lb hamburger mixed with 1 lb pork sausage..
UMMMMMMMM
28 posted on 06/16/2016 8:58:17 AM PDT by Namo_Amitabha
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To: MeanWestTexan

guess I didn’t think this one through. You are correct. I rescind my suggestion. How about the recitation of “There is no god called Allah and Mohammed is his false prophet” for a test?


29 posted on 06/16/2016 8:59:30 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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To: All

Was originally going to post a /s after above comment
But decided that the replies would expose just WHY people do NOT say something when they see something.
Point made!


30 posted on 06/16/2016 8:59:55 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Trump is exposing the Fifth Column in the US)
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To: TroutStalker

Interesting. Does that mean he didn’t want to be a martyr or just wanted to buy a couple minutes to do more killing in the name of Allah?


31 posted on 06/16/2016 9:00:07 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: TroutStalker

“If something is suspicious, it’s our discretion,” Mr. Abell said. “We are the gatekeeper.”

_______________________

See where this is going? All that a muslim can do now is cry ‘discrimination’ and get CAIR to sue gun stores out of business. All the while, arming questionable people who will eventually strike.


32 posted on 06/16/2016 9:02:40 AM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: TroutStalker

What is suspicious when one is wearing his ‘pajamas’ in the middle of the day, and the statement “I looked into his/her eyes” comes into being because that was the ONLY skin you could see on the entire body(occasionally a hand would peek out) BUT the drivers permit was the same as what I was looking at and there was a camel and goat in the parking lot AND he wanted it delivered to the local mosque and they would meet us there.

Move on Folks- nothing to see here.


33 posted on 06/16/2016 9:08:14 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake it you have got it made. Groucho Marx.")
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To: NorthMountain

If it speaks muzzie then yes - yes I do.


34 posted on 06/16/2016 9:08:56 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Cboldt
-- Why didn't this gun shop notify FBI ? -- That's a sure fire way to get attention from the government, on your own actions. No thanks. Turn the guy away. Suspecting an Arabic or black person of bad intentions is racist.

Yep, was just thinking, you make that call, the DOJ will be calling back, notifying you that you'll be shut down while they investigate reports of violating public accommodations acts.

35 posted on 06/16/2016 9:09:36 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: freespirit2012

Stomping on a Koran might be a better bet. Orthodox Jews will fail your Bacon Cheeseburger test.


37 posted on 06/16/2016 9:23:35 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: 556x45

The red flag was that he was obviously a jihadi. These guys are clearly a bunch of racists, CAIR needs to jump on them.


38 posted on 06/16/2016 9:24:37 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: TroutStalker
"Very odd" behavior in a gun store? Heck, the tens of millions of foreign nationals within our borders is "very odd." A Manchurian Candidate in the White House is "very odd." A female insane communist running for president is "very odd", especially since the Constitution refers to the President in only masculine pronouns.

We're living in "very odd" times. Don't believe it? Just look at the cover of People magazine. A fag named Richard Simmons is pretending to be a woman. A really, ugly woman. I've seen iguanas that look better.

39 posted on 06/16/2016 9:26:22 AM PDT by LouAvul (Freedom without responsibility is anarchy.)
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To: TroutStalker

Left out of the WSJ article:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/orlando-shooter-turned-gun-store-suspicious/story?id=39901107

“An an alert salesperson refused to sell to Mateen, and Abell said he contacted authorities about Mateen prior to the massacre. The local sheriff’s office said they were unaware of the incident at the gun store and other local authorities, including the local FBI office, have not responded to ABC News’ requests....”


An important point because excluding that little nugget of truth keeps the focus on gun control. The truth is in spite of all of the red flags, Mateen was under no surveillance.

The ball was dropped by the feds which is nothing “ common sense gun control” will fix.


40 posted on 06/16/2016 9:28:34 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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