Posted on 06/07/2016 6:39:22 PM PDT by Mariner
"Attorneys for a former State Department staffer who helped set up Hillary Clinton’s private email server said Tuesday that he was granted limited immunity by federal prosecutors in an ongoing Justice Department investigation and not shielded from prosecution in connection with other matters.
The disclosure came as Bryan Pagliano met a court deadline to disclose details of the agreement after he sought to invoke his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination to avoid answering questions in a civil open-records lawsuit brought by the conservative group Judicial Watch.
Pagliano’s attorneys, led by Mark J. MacDougall, filed the agreement under terms that it be sealed from all but U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan of Washington.
In an accompanying filing, they explained that Pagliano entered into “use and derivative use” agreements with the Justice Department shortly after approaching it in December 2015 with a proposal to give testimony.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
- Pagliano approached DOJ with an offer to testify.
- His offered testimony has nothing to do with FOIA.
We can only deduce Pagliano has information associated with violations of the Espionage Act, or corruption/secret trading associated with the Foundation.
I wonder if he ever had a direct conversation with Clinton on these matters?
Interesting:
Thanks for posting, Mariner!
Ping!!!
IT guy pagliano got limited immunity..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3437907/posts?page=1#1
See mariner’s comment:
“Important information hidden in this article:
- Pagliano approached DOJ with an offer to testify.
- His offered testimony has nothing to do with FOIA.
We can only deduce Pagliano has information associated with violations of the Espionage Act, or corruption/secret trading associated with the Foundation.
I wonder if he ever had a direct conversation with Clinton on these matters?”
How many dozens of hundreds of people, from both parties, in at least 2 branches of government, knew about Hillary’s crimes? This is the type of scandal that would have taken down a GOP Admin. Hillary was SoS in 2009. This is incredible how slow this has been, with nothing to show for it.
Wow this entire thing stinks. Who is playing who? The Judge is going to look like a fool if he accepts that this guy can pled the 5th. This guy and Clinton should be serving life in a Maximum security lock-up like every other trader caught in the act.
I said it before, and now I'm convinced. Pagliano met with investigators under the terms of a proffer letter. In other words, he had "Queen for a Day" immunity. The Justice Department gave nothing away. They can prosecute Pagliano for any crime that they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
The DoJ can't use any of the testimony given under the proffer letter to convict Pagliano. But if the DoJ can independently develop the same evidence, the DoJ would be able to use it. Nothing is lost by the DoJ since Pagliano would have never talked to them in the first place without the proffer letter.
I’m not a lawyer, but it sounds to me like the Justice Department is giving him limited immunity to make sure he doesn’t reveal anything damaging to Hillary...for his own safety.
While not directly related to THIS article, has anyone seen anything where Hillary used anything BUT her private email(s)/server to contact/have contact with anyone concerning State business?
IOW, did she have a secure State email set up for her to use and did she use it? (I have read one was offered, but haven’t seen anything where it was set up and used).
Inconvenient.
I don’t believe Pagliano had sufficient clearance to view the classified documents crossing and reposed on this server, yet as an administrator of the device, the Beast’s illegal behavior likely placed him into legal peril. Maybe Pagliano’s cooperation was an effort to derail a potential investigation of himself.
Thank you. Inconvenient yes! (but interesting!)
I’m curious now as to the reply to Congress & FOIA lawsuits concerning response(s)... did State reply and with what (concerning State email addy)?
If there was an email setup, what was the address, when setup, when shut down, activity log(s), who was in charge, was this turned over to committee.
(I have searched, but I may not be using the correct search strings... keep getting results to private email... or it’s buried so deep )
“.... has anyone seen anything where Hillary used anything BUT her private email(s)/server to contact/have contact with anyone concerning State business?”
Nope. And that leads to an astounding conclusion which I find inescapable. In essence, she carried out her entire tenure as SOS with an unsecure server. SERVER, not “account”. It’s not like Colin Powell, who sent some number of personal emails from a private ACCOUNT. HRC’s entire tenure was carried out on an unsecure MACHINE which was the locus or each and every piece of email-communication sent or received or forwarded.
To think that names and addresses or otherwise locations of operatives were not compromised is beyond preposterous. To think that extremely sensitive items were not compromised is not even worthy of consideration. Yet she skates with this lame excuse “she didn’t know it was classified” or “it wasn’t marked classified”. I mean really, does anyone seriously imagine that she sends or receives an email...it goes to some vetting authority...and then it gets a certain security rating?
She should be in Federal custody right now.
Agree and excellent points to continually put out.
Colin Powell came in as email was being “inaugurated” (as I recall), rules/laws concerning such were being formed and refined. Same for Rice.
While they may not have abided by current rules/laws, they seem to have used State email for State business on the whole.
Clinton, as part of her SoS duties SHOULD have been responsible for continuing to evolve the use of email as a secure communication method. (Did she put anyone in charge of this and who, if not why not?)
Clinton did not abide by current rules/law, never mind furthering methods to secure communication(s).
Also, the server may have contained emails from Potus Bill and Clinton Foundation (and others... not sure if all addy’s have been revealed).
Again, excellent point re: email vs server, evolution of past SoS usage.
(may I ask to also see my reply post above about further questions?) thanks for yours again.
More questions... Article doesn't say if Pags (might as well give him a syndicate name) contacted the DOJ through an attorney (presume) and whom that might be; current or other.
As to his directly contacting Hillary...
We can presume that is unlikely given her disdain for underlings, her lack of electronic communication knowledge (Computer Literacy and of course disdain for those that know more about such things than she does) and the ever present underlying "plausible deniability" which has been one of the foundations of the Clinton legacy.
AND... she's old. (while many of us who are older, are not)
“Wow this entire thing stinks. Who is playing who? The Judge is going to look like a fool if he accepts that this guy can pled the 5th. This guy and Clinton should be serving life in a Maximum security lock-up like every other trader caught in the act.”
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With respect, I believe you misread this. The FBI does NOT want this guy testifying in the separate Judicial Watch civil case now. They want him controlled and his information secret (as well as his agreement, which may include a “proffer” of his anticipated statement) until Hillary Clinton has been interviewed by the FBI. It would be awful for her and her team to get an advance view of what this guy has until she has been interviewed. Today’s development was expected, and good.
To put this in perspective, Hillery could have used
an Enigma machine but chose to send a telegram,
in English...
People have been shot for less.
See, I see no wiggle room in this as to “evolution” or “should(s)”.
She not only took on duties giving her access to top secret and beyond top secret material, she treated it like it was used dogfood. If you read 18 USC she has an absolute duty to maintain the security of this material or to report any breach of same immediately. The two are perfectly equivalent. Maintain secrecy and report any suspected breach at once. Period, end of subject. She did neither. There is no “by accident” or “inadvertent” in the black letter of the law.
You know, this is not an astronomical inhuman-grade standard of behavior. I was an ordinary realtor, and the duty to disclose defects in a property being offered is total. Even maybes, even suspicions. I took that stuff very seriously. Obviously, this is far beyond that, but to treat these materials in a deliberate diversion of 100% of her communs to a private server is nothing if not a deliberate act. I don’t see how it can be construed otherwise. The whole structure of setting up the alternate server can’t be an accident.
Over and above that, she apparently signed a special agreement with the 0bama admin as to her activities with the Clinton foundation which she was supposed to cease. So when she communicates with Sidney Blumenthal in any way, she is either thereby compromising state secrets or she is in violation of her agreement with the administration.
I just see no room for equivocation or excuse or alternate constructs of the clear reality.
Charge him with a few thousand felonies... then see if he's ready to talk.
I agree with you, really!
I was attempting to FURTHER show how Hillary Clinton was inept, incompetent and derelict in her duty as SoS by NOT implementing HIGHER standards for email communication standards than that which she (in her current vernacular) ‘perceived’ to be ?allowed?.
I understand the standards that you as a Realtor are/were held to (not directly, fiance). I, as a General Motors supervisor also had standards (many; MVSS, company confidence, production, union negotiation etc).
Please understand that I am NOT attempting to condone, lessen or equivocate anything that she did...
I’m trying to expand upon what she DIDN’T do and should have done in her capacity as being the Secretary of State concerning email communication!
A standard which anyone in a position of authority/leadership is by nature of the position, presumed to understand and attempt if not accomplish.
(and which will probably not be talked about by the talking head/print media, but this being FreeRepublic is now on Google)
I think that we are in agreement?
I believe you are correct regarding the FBI not wanting the Hillary bunch to know, in advance of her questioning, what Pagliani told them.
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