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Michigan Police Destroy Thousands of Legal Firearms Annually
Ammoland ^ | 2 June, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/03/2016 5:27:24 AM PDT by marktwain

Michigan state Police Firearms Destruction last page 1 June 2016

Under Michigan law, the Michigan State Police (MSP) are required to publish a list of the firearms that they intend to dispose of each month.  Agencies in Michigan are required to turn over to the State Police firearms that have been forfeited or confiscated from prohibited possessors.

The firearms are checked to see if they have been reported stolen.  If they have not been reported stolen, the MSP are required to dispose of them.  Before they are disposed of, the list of firearms has to be published each month.  Owners of the firearms are given 30 days to contact the police to recover their property.

I doubt if many do so; if they have not been listed as stolen, the chances of the owner checking the State Police list each month to determine if their firearm shows up seems vanishingly small.

The MSP have the choice to dispose of the firearms by sale or to destroy them.  They have been choosing to destroy them, likely for political reasons and because of bureaucratic inertia. It is hard to see why they would avoid selling them at auction. There are 298 firearms listed to be destroyed after June 1, 2016 (pdf).  Many are inexpensive.  Many are not.  They run the gamut from a Webley and Scott 12 gauge shotgun to a Butler .22.  The Webley and Scott Shotgun is potentially worth thousands; the Butler .22, maybe $50.  Most of them are pistols, 225 of them. There are 39 shotguns and 34 rifles. The list is changed each month.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; gundestruction; leo; michigan; msp; secondamendment
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Why throw away a half million dollars each year? Because that is what we have always done...

They are not even getting propaganda value out of it any more.

It is pure, unadulterated, waste. Destruction for the sake of destruction.

1 posted on 06/03/2016 5:27:25 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I guess selling them to legitimate dealers who would in turn, of course, sell them to law abiding firearms owners would make too much sense.


2 posted on 06/03/2016 5:30:30 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("You'd see a different game if nobody wore a helmet". NY Rangers' Barry Beck 1983)
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What independent body verifies the guns were destroyed? It wouldnt surprise me if some walked home and others are used when a throw down was needed.


3 posted on 06/03/2016 5:33:41 AM PDT by 556x45
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It is government, therefore no surprise it wastes resources.

Why no link to the to people doing the destruction?


4 posted on 06/03/2016 5:34:38 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: OttawaFreeper

Our local Sheriff has always auctioned guns taken from illegal owners (drug dealers, felons, etc.) to the general public. He puts a notice in the local paper with a list of some of the guns. The auction is usually held at a local church. Background checks are done but no guns are destroyed unless they are dangerous (faulty). I guess that’s the difference between Tennessee and Michigan.


5 posted on 06/03/2016 5:35:42 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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< What independent body verifies the guns were destroyed? It wouldnt surprise me if some walked home and others are used when a throw down was needed.

Looking at the list it looks like most of the ones the destroy are POS. I bet the goon ones like the Sigs and the SWs are in the homes of some of the officers.

6 posted on 06/03/2016 5:42:14 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Goon = good


7 posted on 06/03/2016 5:48:03 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Most on this page are Rugers, Taurus, and Winchesters. Taurus may be a (small) step down from Rugers, but are generally pretty good guns.

I would bet that the average price on auction for this page would be closer to $200 than $100.

Sometime, the guns are worth more for parts than as a whole.


8 posted on 06/03/2016 5:52:08 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: jsanders2001

I asked about pre-1968 guns, many of which have no serial numbers.

I was told that all of them are destroyed.


9 posted on 06/03/2016 5:53:25 AM PDT by marktwain
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Hey! The state went to a lot of work to get those guns out of the hands of criminally law-abiding citizens.

You don’t want to take a chance that someone might use them to protect themselves. That’s what the police are for. :)


10 posted on 06/03/2016 5:54:13 AM PDT by chesley (The right to protest is not the right to disrupt.)
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That’s a lot of “Glocks” as the toads in the commie lib “media” calls them.


11 posted on 06/03/2016 6:04:41 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Clinton supporters are the people Alexis de Toqueville warned us about.)
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Think of it as a back-door DemonRat Welfare for the Firearms Industry. Destruction means there are fewer used firearms for sale, spurring new firearm purchases.

Unintended Consequences much?


12 posted on 06/03/2016 6:34:07 AM PDT by Earl43P (If at first you don't succeed, RTFM.)
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I will hafta see that Marlin .22 SHOTGUN! Hehehe. d;^)

What a cryin friggin shame. Looks like some nice stuff on that list.
Idiot gubbermint.

13 posted on 06/03/2016 6:52:01 AM PDT by CopperTop
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A lot of companies made .22 smoothbore guns, often called "garden guns" since they could be used in town to kill pests. Usually single shot bolt guns, but some pumps and at least one semi-auto (Kricko from Germany).

Some like the Mossberg "Targo" and Remigton "Mo-Skeet-O" had small traps that could throw tiny clay targets.

Those with the "Routledge" bore throw excellent patterns out to 30 feet. They even had a team.

I thought that would get your attention.

14 posted on 06/03/2016 7:04:54 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: marktwain

“Destroy”: Send to Mexico.....


15 posted on 06/03/2016 7:36:00 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Great old photos.

I think we are in the process or restoring/reinventing it.

Lots of pretty girls with guns on the Internet and at competitions...


16 posted on 06/03/2016 8:32:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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I asked about pre-1968 guns, many of which have no serial numbers.

I was told that all of them are destroyed.

Why not list them anyway then (with "N/A" for the serial number), just for the sake of full disclosure? Not listing them raises questions. Are they actually going home in cops' car trunks, being sold through online auctions, etc?

No serial number, no way to officially trace a firearm back to the Michigan PD.

17 posted on 06/03/2016 8:48:15 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Enjoyable! d;^)


18 posted on 06/03/2016 9:16:16 AM PDT by CopperTop
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To: Charles Martel

I did not ask about magazines, telescopic sights, mounts, grips, stocks, or other parts...


19 posted on 06/03/2016 10:11:14 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Charles Martel

Most NSN (no serial number) guns are inexpensive .22 rifles and the like. Browning, Colt, and S&W have always serial numbered their guns. Winchester on the nicer ones, with the single shot boy’s rifles and the like being NSN. For example I have 2 model 67’s that are NSN, but a 30’s vintage 57 is numbered.


20 posted on 06/03/2016 2:28:56 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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